Anyone else getting frustrated with Safari?
I don't know what the deal is, but lately I've been experiencing so many issues with Safari.
A couple weeks ago, we had to deal with Safari refusing to display PDFs. This wasn't only occurring with our in-house machines. Customers using Safari were also experiencing the same problems.
It would just pull up a dark grey screen and that was it. We were completely confused here at first, over what was going on - thinking our PDFs were corrupt, perhaps, or our web server was having issues with PDF files, etc. etc., but we finally narrowed it down to being a Safari-ONLY problem.
So, the fix for us was to delete our old Acrobat Reader plugin and install the latest one and then Safari was finally able to view PDFs without issues. (We also found other solutions on the Apple support discussion boards, too.)
Now, I've been working with a different issue entirely where Safari isn't displaying a Flash animation properly (the animation is being programmed by some third-party people). But once again, after much trouble-shooting, we've found that the issue is unique to Safari, and once again, we're having to update our Flash plugins in order for it to display things correctly.
What in the hey is going on with Safari lately? Am I the only one getting frustrated with this browser? Is Apple trying to tinker around with the browser too much and make it too specific about certain things, forcing customers to upgrade constantly?
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Conspiracy!!!
OOH! OR - I wonder if it's an ADOBE issue... hmmm? Or are they both in on it?
Okay, I'll return to my aluminum-foil lined closet now.
Looks like Apple is
Looks like Apple is preparing safari to work better on the iphone (no built in flash support):
http://www.applesucks.org/index.php?id=8
Look on macosx.com and you'll find tons of people having issues with Safari. I think when it upgrades it's ditching features so that it will work better with the iphone, but Apple isn't telling anyone this. Hence the redownloading of plugins.
http://macosx.com/forums/mac-os-x-system-mac-software/299736-safari-not-launching.html
Have you considered Firefox? Even with FF I never bother opening pdfs in it. Reader is so much better!
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And the oh-so sly
And the oh-so sly requirement of downloading safari with itunes:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11268
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No problems here.
No problems here.
It's not just safari. Even
It's not just safari. Even the new keyboard update patch sent out resets all key settings to default and doesn't allow some users (namely my mom!) to restart their machines!
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Still prefer Safari
I still prefer Safari over Firefox for my daily browsing.
For development, the Developers Toolbar in Firefox makes it indispensable.
I've had no troubles with PDF's or Flash on Safari.
~ spigotdesign.com
I've stopped using Safari.
I've stopped using Safari. What do you like about it at this point? Let us know your thoughts on this.
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Mainly, it looks better
1. I can hardly stand the standard button look in Firefox. The square bevel looks very 90's to me.
2. The feed reader in Safari is great. Click on the rss logo in the url bar, then bookmark it, and I'm updated with a constant feed list. In Firefox I used Sage, which was fine, but it took up too much screen real estate, and was more cumbersome to set up new feeds. Too much copy and paste. (I may have been doing it wrong, which means it wasn't intuitive in the first place)
3. The auto click feature is also great. I set up a bookmark folder called "Start" and put all the sites I want to come up in the folder. I click start, and bam, all my morning sites are up in separate tabs. The way to do it in FF is to set up your start page with multiple sites in separate tabs. This is fine, except when you want to open a new window. All the same tabs open again.
4. PDF viewer. I like that it comes up, and for me, just works.
5. General UI layout feels overall, better thought out. Proof of this to me is FF3's default theme looks a whole lot like Safari.
One thing I used to like better about FF was its password management. But then I bought an app called 1Password, and its taken that functionality to the next level.
I'd like to hear what other think too. Sorry I've only mentioned FF and Safari. I'm too deeply involved now to transfer to a new browser (bookmarks, etc)
~ spigotdesign.com
me too
I love Safari more.
• Safari has a simple UI interface.
• Seems quicker.
• Love the private browsing option.
• Most times when I click a button in FF it leaves this dotted line thing that I hate.
• And I don't really use add-ons (because I freelance on a lot of different computers and dont want to leave too much presence) so FireFox's options just annoy me.
But I've been having some serious issues with safari. When I log onto more complicated websites with intense javascripting (i.e. gmail or istockphoto.com) more than likely my safari will crash.
Boo. Now I am forced into Firefox because I never have time to search for the updates or components that my safri needs to run properly.
-T
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because I freelance on a lot
Hate to be a stickler, but in many states what you are describing is an employer/employee relationship, not freelance. Here in California, if you use a company's equipment, are on their premises, and several other requirements are satisfied, you're actually an employee. You might want to research that for your state...
As for safari/FF thing, I love FF because of its add ons. You can even get FoxMarks and share your bookmarks on ANY computer you use. This has been invaluable to me as has been the Web Developer Tools. Ivan (this site's founder) has a link on weblinks to a sweet style for Gmail that brings it into the 21st century. So slick!
That link gripe may be the site itself, not Firefox since FF only displays what it's told to display (by definition).
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I see your point but ...
In New York we have a high number of off-site and on-site freelance positions. I've worked at several motion graphics firms who bring in 90% of their team (sometimes 50 people at a time) freelance on a per project basis.
Of course when projects run long its probably breaking those written rules for what 'freelance' is (or permalance) but the needs of industry move faster than any government documents.
At the end of the day, I work, get the job done, eat and then look for a new gig.
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I disagree
I disagree with you here. In fact, these companies you are working for could be breaking NY state law; laws specifically designed to protect workers (ie. health benefits).
I definitely am not criticizing you, just companies that take shortcuts like this just because they're too busy to follow the rules, if indeed New York State has laws on the books like California's with regard to the definition of an employee.
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A rose by any other name...
A rose by any other name...
Huh? ---- Powerpoint is not
Huh?
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true but.
I break laws all the time. And so do the companies I work for.
Most projects are better done onsite for me. Because the firm ultimately needs the open files on their system, in their file archiving format, using their assets.
Sure some companies abuse the rule. (Most I've seen). But I charge accordingly so that I can afford my own insurance.
The truth is, I'd rather be the one making the money (and having the flexibility of my freelancer status) than, making sure my clients uphold all of 'NY State laws'.
-T
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Um, you're basically saying
Um, you're basically saying it's okay to break the law as long as you're getting paid and it's convenient to you. Nice.
What other laws are you breaking? Does that make it right? I don't think so. But we're probably belaboring this point.
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laws...
I don't think everyone follows all the laws set by the US government. And I don't think that is an ideal way to live.
• The law is arbitrary in allowing people to smoke cigarettes which are a known killer but prohibiting someones ability to smoke marijuana for medical reasons in 'most' of its states.
* The law prohibits you from giving to panhandlers and the homeless in many states.
• The law says having sex for money is illegal unless you do it on tape. (Pornography)
Martin Luther King, Ghandi, and Madonna were all lawbreakers.
I don't decide what is right or wrong based on what is 'the law'. I'm a human so I make decisions based on my personal ethics, the effect it may have on others and the probability of getting caught if my opinion differs from the one on the books.
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Your view of the law is way
Your view of the law is way too flexible. Ignorance of them, or defiance of them, is no excuse. Sure, some of them are silly or not applicable to today's times and should be rewritten, but for the most part you risk prosecution if you think you can do whatever you want in spite of them.
MLK was an activist, but his MO wasn't to break the law to get results, or a way to protest the system. It happened, yes, but that was against his best, pacifistic efforts. A better example would have been the Black Panthers or Malcom X for civil rights law breakers for the sake of wider attention.
Still, the laws for these companies you are working for are most likely on the books. You think because you profit from disobeying them that it's okay? I don't.
So you'd prefer we follow whichever laws suit us at the moment? I'm not a fan of anarchy. :)
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Shakespeare
"What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet...."
It's from the balcony scene in "Romeo and Juliet." But you knew that. :-)
Mara
An interesting fact about
An interesting fact about that quote: The Rose was the playhouse that showcased much of Shakespeare's work. The floor was basically a toilet. The place smelled awful. Hence, the Rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Not quite so romantic in that light! :)
So yes, I definitely get your point. :)
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Damn!
That's right! I forgot all about that. I think Shakespeare is full of such local-yokel yucks that go over the heads of audiences today -- except the ones with the chamber pots under their seats, and like that. (Very off-Broadway.) I wonder if anyone's collected them (the yucks, not the pots) into some sort of coffee table book for moribund ex-actors. I'd buy several for for all my friends. I'd keep one for myself, to cheer me up betimes about what I did with all that young theatrical promise. It all went downhill after the saloon singing. *sigh*
Mara
Apple's take on
Apple's take on add-ons:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300972
PithHelmet, an ad blocker. Might be a good extension to start with for Safari (AdBlockPlus on FF): http://www.culater.net/software/PithHelmet/PithHelmet.php
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as a Wacom fanboy...
I could never get Safari to work consistently with any Wacom tablet on any Mac. (I use my Wacom tablets enough that I keep my mouse in a drawer across the room.) Sometimes it takes 3 or 4 tries to get a click to "take" in Safari, but no trouble in any other browser. I've found others online who share this issue, but there aren't that many of us who have 100% ditched all other pointing devices save the tablet.
I like Camino because it's more Mac-like than FF, and seems faster and more stable than either Safari or FF. Kinda short on features, but I kinda like it that way. Much less of a resource hog, too.
This is all pretty
This is all pretty interesting. I use a Wacom tablet with mouse and pen, depending on what my hand needs at any one time, and I do notice the sluggish response to clicks in Safari. I also notice Safari is crashing on me a lot lately, especially in the Yahoo universe. Weird, innit?
Mara