Branding for a Web-based client

Hey mara! Nice first round.

I do suggest, though, that you remove the color. Does the logo still work? And separate the icon from the logotype. Can they be used separately in different branding applications and still function?

Remember, the client need to 'show everything with the logo' should not outweigh artistic decency. :) The logo takes on meaning through branding, not by 'showing' everything it's supposed to be in a literal fashion.

The font seems a little out of step with the 'green' style out there currently. Go to logopond.com and type in 'green'.

Keep churnin! And have a few more drinks at the bar for me, wouldja?! :)

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Powerpoint is not a design application

Nat, I designed this thing about 9 years ago. It's long gone ;-)

I understand this is a finished logo but here are my thoughts:

1. I wonder what it would be like without the circle behind

2. The d is actually higher than the other letters

3. kerning feels irregular

4. The fact that the design is touching the frame's edges, makes it look like you ran out of space (i know this isn't really part of the design, but it counts as it is displayed in a frame)

I agree with natobasso for the most part

Cheers.

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Thanks for posting. It somehow feels better.......

The design is touching the edges of the frame because that's how things living in white space will upload here, unless you force the issue with one of several tricks I could detail if I weren't already over three hours late for lunch, so I won't. Click on View Original.

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Hey Mara, don't get me wrong. You have the full right to comment and sit with the big kids and talk. This site is for that. I too have the right to expose my points of view don't I?

Even if you have 200 years of design experience, your work is what speaks. With two decades of experience you must have a ton of work to share, why not share it?

Thanks!

First of all, since this seems to be the thread that this conversation ended up in, I'll say it here. Thanks Mara, for posting your work, even though you didn't need to in any fashion.

I disagree strongly that everyone here that contributes needs to post their work. The reason I haven't posted very much is because I'm working with a company that must be careful about what work is let out and at what times. There are reasons behind this - but nevertheless, I'm only really comfortable posting things that I do on the side in my free time.

Does that mean I don't know what I'm saying when I critique? I think not. Sure, I have my own opinions and so does everyone else - but that is what the flippin' site is for. Chill out, look at some designs, and hear what people have to say. I do believe that it is the work that speaks for a designer's quality - but I do not think this site was meant to prove who is better than whom.

I've had my rants and my sighs about seeing work that is less than good - but hey, I'm still critiquing because I figure if I give my opinion, others will give theirs, and that's what I like to read. Sometimes the people that have less than great work give the best critiques and point out things other people don't see. I don't want people to stop giving their opinion just because they don't have an online portfolio or have the inability to post their own work.

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Perfectly Lost Designs

This whole "show me yours or shut up" thing is really insulting, but I'm trying to play fair.

All I know is that I am expressing my points of view as everybody else here and if my ideas don't sound right to you, there's no need to feel insulted. I certainly understand if you don't want to post or if you can't post.

My intention was never to create a bad vibe.
peace.

Wow, everybody needs to chill. I, for one am grateful to Mara for showing her work. There's a lot of peoples work I like seeing here and some I would like to see. Does that make me the bad guy? HELL no. There's a lot of things we *don't* have to do in life, but I believe for the sake of the small design community gathered here, and out of respect for each other, we should...WHEN we can, IF we can. If someone doesn't want to post, by no means does that make their opinion on other peoples work less valid. Posting up your work does add a bit of leverage to your comments and reinforces them to a certain extent in *my* view, but not nearly enough to even be mentioned. Don't post cause you feel forced to, post cause you want the help or you just want to show others your way of viewing things and seeing life and ideas and concepts.It would be in the spirit of helping and sharing with each other. And to each and everyone here who contributes, whether you get 100 comments on your work and do 20 revisions and post up all 20 or if you just post up one piece every blue moon, I thank you.

Now the way it was done might not have been the most tactful way in the eyes of some people, and it probably came off as very rude ( I know I was kinda uneasy when I read it) but since when did we become a gang of sensitive pansies? We can take criticism in our daily lives and aptly turn the other cheek and leave with feedback that can make us better, but we can't take a request from one of our peers to post up work? Granted, the timing of the request might of been bad ( and poorly worded), simply because Mara was asked to showcase her work after making yet another productive and helpful critique.
Now using Maras work (or anybody for that matter) to gauge if we can trust her critiques or not is professional, ethical, hell, it's just plain stupid. I've seen Mara give feedback on a lot of projects and more times than not that bit of feedback was exactly what the project needed to simply be better. What was Mokenke's true motivation behind asking to see her work? I've always wanted to see her portfolio actually. But not just hers, but lots of people here. I click on links, go to online portfolios, read bios. Do I do it because I feel these people have something to prove to me? No. I do it because I want to see, out of sheer curiosity, what these people have to contribute to the art world.

"Show me yours or Shut up" You're better than this Mara. Yeah, it did sound like it, but what harm is there in showing off your work. If it manages to shut him up (in the nicest way possible) why not? Where did you get in Mokenke's request that you had to show your work or stop critiquing, especially after he's said so many times that he just wanted to see some of what you have to offer? Does professionalism end the minute you step out of the boardroom or get off the phone with a client? If you absolutely needed to prove to him that it was pointless for you to post, or that you had nothing to prove to anyone ( which of course you don't) why post at all? Again, what about everyone looking forward to seeing your stuff? All of your posts *were* appreciated but tinged with bitterness it seems. Again, why post at all if your so firmly believe you had nothing to prove?

I like it, it's nice and refreshing. 9 years ago? Holy crap! Yeah, you were a bit ahead of your time... the leaves thing is super popular. Over done, even. Anyways, I like this.

And... for what it's worth, I've been a member of this forum longer than most people in this thread. And I've posted like 2 things of my own. ;)