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Bruce K.Cantrell

Bruce K.Cantrell

Mock-up advert being place in an architectural magazine, for architects and interior designers.

Bruce K.Cantrell: photographer and 3d artist, advert for himself in the magazine.

Please let us know your opinion before going to print :)

http://www.brucekcantrell.com

aroberts's picture
263 pencils

she's missing nipples. Why the woman in the first place? It's pretty, but it's not making as much sense as I would want.

alexisVERT's picture
45 pencils

No nipples as sa has issues with nipples, The reason for the womans body is that is a simple beautiful form and also my main target audience is male who will find this appealing and female portion of the market most woman find a beautifully implied nude, well, beautiful.

The cut away is showing off 3d and architectural photography work (the sophistication) and the female form is simple and natural. The cutaway is going to be designed to fit the form of the model - this was just a quick test using 3d work already done. Bruce

aroberts's picture
263 pencils

Using a hot chick does not say sophisticated. blurring out nipples rather then using a photo that hides the nipples in the first place also does not say sophisticated. While the nude figure is a beautiful form, placing it in an ad in a blatant attempt to win over the male audience is something that will not be glazed over in the female target audience, especially in advertising a supposedly 'sophisticated' photographer.

In the end, the woman becomes the focus in an ad where she is suppose to play the supporting role.

alexisVERT's picture
45 pencils

UM what part of mockup advert dont you understand, Bruce still has to shoot the model with covering her nipple but for test purposes has been edited out...

Sophistication is in the ARTWORK within the model the "cut away"and not hot chick, this ad is designed for an intellectual market and not a look "oh hot chick".

"While the nude figure is a beautiful form, placing it in an ad in a blatant attempt to win over the male audience is something that will not be glazed over in the female target audience, especially in advertising a supposedly 'sophisticated' photographer."

Feed back we have had from female architects contradict your statement, they love the advert and are not adverse to it and see it as a beautiful art piece, more than just a body.

We are not using the hot chick as a selling point you are reading it your own way, its the beautiful form and concept behind it rather than a perving session,

The girl is the main focus because everything an architect and interior people do is for people, AND ONCE the artwork inside has actually been rendered it will pull your eye more in... these were just inserts to show concept. The concept being that beauty is the idea below the skin, but the purpose of their careers are asthetics so there fore visually pleasing being the last standing point. And creating intrigue getting you to go view the work on a larger format on the website

aroberts's picture
263 pencils

I fail to see why, because it is a mockup, I don't need to give my honest opinion about the ad in it's entirety, please explain this to me. In a design class, when we review each other's rough ideas for an ad, we don't piddle around with less then a completely honest opinion about the piece in its entirety. Let me repeat that: in it's entirety.

Also, I you would look at your original post, it says nothing about a mock-up, only that you would like to get opinions before it's printed. I see that you mentioned mock-up in response to someone else, but again, the fact that this is a mock-up does not impact the fact that in this ad there is a poor design decision to include a woman with no nipples.

In your response, the first thing you spoke about in reference to the inclusion of the woman was its ability to target the male audience. It was the first thing that you said, I therefore feel that the other reasons come secondary. Indeed the position of her form is frontal, her vagina is on the cusp in being seen and she has no coverage what-so ever. Hers is a stance that is by nature much more sexualized then other positions of nude women. I have seen elegant nude ads and no matter how much pretty lighting you use, you can't remove the sexualization apparent in her position and stark naked treatment.

Now the role of a woman in the context of an ad marketed toward the male market is in emphasizing her sexuality. Male audience=MMM PRETTY CHICK WITH BOOBS. You did not say 'intellectual' market' 'high-end' market. 'designer' market. You split it up between male and female market. I shaped my opinion of your direction based on the information you told me.

Sophistication needs to be prevalent in every design choice you make not only in the service/product but also in the ad. The ad reinforces the mission set by the photographer.

You admitted (perhaps misspoke) that the woman's role in the ad was to market towards a male audience. If I (as a audience to the ad) were to believe this, I would feel it is anything but sophisticated. Again it was in believing that her primary role was to seduce the male audience (a fact you had admitted) and the position of her body, that shaped this opinion.

I see where you are going with in terms of the concept and I understand it and it can be veryvery elegant, the way it is now is not elegant. For this to be successful, you will have to pick a more artistic position for this woman, you will have to have a clever way to cut in the 3D interior spaces and have it balanced in a way where the woman REINFORCES the service/product, not overshadows it.

jHouse's picture
1425 pencils

Dont waste your breathe. He's too pro for you.

Jack

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3dogmama's picture
1925 pencils

Agree with aroberts...what the hell does a naked woman have to do with architecture and interior designers. Emphasis should be on the 3D architectural renderings...highlight them not the nipple-less chick.

Now, if it was a car magazine....

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

alexisVERT's picture
45 pencils

Hi There

we were trying to be more conceptual than plain and boring straight forward focusing on the work, the interiors as per previous comment still have to be designed to fit the advert as this was a mockup and NOT FINAL PRODUCT.

We were trying to put elements in and an emotional level, straying away from everyday classified adverts.

A womans body is one of the best structures that have been designed, also playing on the fact architects think they have a god complex :) ... but not focusing on this, it is a more subliminal hint.

The designer is also a architect and a professional photographer.

The architectural industry is mostly male... they of all people would appreciate a perfect form.

Leaky Penny's picture
1616 pencils

Um. Uhhhhh. Hmmmmm. What the....?

Leaky Penny
www.leakypenny.com

We artists are indestructible, even in a prison cell or concentration camp I would be almighty in my own world of art. Even if I had to paint my pictures with my wet tongue on the dusty floor of my cell. - Pablo Picasso

Art D. Rector's picture
941 pencils

Creepy on many levels. Looking at it from a design standpoint, the ONLY thing I can think is you guys were dead set on getting a naked chick in the ad somehow. Nipples, no nipples, mock-up, actual ad, whatever... bad idea.

As always... jmho.

3dogmama's picture
1925 pencils

Spohistication in Simplicty.

Visual: a child's drawing; or lego block erection; or a Japanese print look; or your client's photographic work framed within one of their interior drawings; or...whatever except the nude woman...it's not working.

I think more thought can be put into this ad, mockup or not...you're travelling the paved route by using something as sexist as a naked woman to garner your audience's attention. Architects may be mainly male, but I don't think they're this shallow. Here's my suggestion: Put something in the ad that's not boring...like your client's work. If I'm hiring this dude to do a gig for me then I'd like a taste of what his rendering and photographic styles are...not some headless chick as the main thrust here.

If you're striving for elegant and sophisticated then you've failed to meet your mark.

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

mara06's picture
2153 pencils

Who do you think you're kidding? You're forcing your "concept" to excuse using a naked woman to sell architecture. Back to the drawing board on this one, friend.

Mara

roquette's picture
47 pencils

A woman missing nipples is very strange!

Ivan's picture

That image of the woman was used for another campaign. I can't find it, but I'm 99% sure. Will you not have problems with copyright?

gwells's picture
1514 pencils

from a typography standpoint, if you're going to use small caps, use a small caps font. it's very obvious when you use fake small caps. the actual caps look so much heavier than the small caps and jump off the page at you. it looks amateurish when you do that.

jHouse's picture
1425 pencils

I wonder why it looks amateurish. Oh wait! Nevermind!

Jack

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taba's picture
112 pencils

Creepy.

jHouse's picture
1425 pencils

Im not sure if anyones picked up on this point : But a female body is not simple. Trust me. I cant be shagged to give a critique. I cant imagine youre going to listen to anybody here. ITS JUST A MOCK UP OMGOMGOMG

Jack

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