Coincidence or Copy Cat
Ruthy (159 points) | Sun, 2009-08-16 12:36
http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-48859--search.htm
This logo design cost the city of Kelowna 35,000 dollars. Inset in the image is an almost identical mark created by the U.S. firm LandDesign back in 2007 for Sunhaven.
Graphic designer Phred Martin stands by his logo's authenticity.
"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers." Princess Leia
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It can very well be a coincidence.
Shape can be a coincidence, but shape and color scheme feels a bit suspicious. It's still possible, just highly unlikely. The designer must have been influenced by the previous logo.
it's hard to take the designer serious when his name is spelled "phred," ;)
but i find it interesting that not only are the shape and color palette so similar, but they're both "city" logos as well.
still, it's certainly possible that it's coincidence.
ha-haa! it looks like phred just inverted the orientation!
phunny!
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If he can justify why he designed that particular logo ( why he chose those colours, elements etc.) then sure, it's a coincidence.
I highly doubt it though.
Leaky Penny
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I'm going to print it out and eat it.
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yes, well apparently the logo shape is a graphical representation of the underside of a pine cone, pine trees being an integral part of the Kelowna landscape and the color scheme chosen represents the sea the land and the sky.
"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers." Princess Leia
Bullshit. That just confirmed it for me, it's a copy.
Leaky Penny
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I'm going to print it out and eat it.
-Unknown Artist
Definitely a copy, though a much improved copy. Not sure how I feel about that.
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Nonsense.
• In fact, it is inverted. Each triangle is 'inverted' where the point of the triangle faces inward rather than outward. Counting 14 triangles rather than 15 is a moot point. Shall we say a white globe with 4 stripes is not a rip off of the 5 stripe AT&T logo?
• The colors are certainly from the same family and share identical concepts. If we designed two 'A's in Helvetica Bold and used a different shade of PMS281 for one and a lighter shade of PMS485 for the other, would we then say it's not a copy of the American Airlines mark?
• Examining the BP logo, one can see the idea of integrated triangular negative space is absent where it is integral in both logos above. Furthermore, the geometric pattern of the BP logo is not based upon triangles but a geometric shape that changes as the rings grow outwards. It's safe to say the BP creative team is not being abused.
• Anyone could come up with a design brief and make it sound 'reasonable'. To say this design is not a rip off because 'the design brief says it wasn't' is not entirely believable.
Personally, if I were the devil, I'd shop around for another advocate.
Cheers! ;-)
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Jeeesus guys! I was laughing so hard I nearly fell off my chair!
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Since these are both city logos there might be a trademark issue, whether the similarity is intentional or not.
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Dirt and Rust
So true. A redesign will be required regardless if its stolen or not.
I find it strange that someone would copy a mediocre logo and go to the trouble to write a rationale for it. The original is poor, as is it's counter part.
I may look alright on a flag, or large signage but the accessibility and reproduction qualities of both of these logos are horrendous.
Should make print companies happy though.
:/
No one on their death bed has ever said 'I wish I had played it safe'.
The reason one logo has 14 triangles and the other has 15 is because "Phred" is not only a plagiarist - he can't count.