Contructivism Poster Design
Cameron (34 points) | Wed, 2010-02-03 23:38Hello,
I am here as a student today.
The premise here was to create a Russian constructivist style poster based on current events, using colors and type styles from the period.
This is my second revision, and I am trying to have everything dialed in.
Any feedback would be appreciated as i would like this to stand out and make a statement to the casual passerby.
thanks

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Political rubbish aside, this looks amateurish. Did you use references? Why are the "A"s upside down?
Also, when presenting "facts" to people it's always best to use citations lest you look like a wing nut.
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i think its spelt 'constructivism'
Can you tell me where you got your reference material?
You WILL be marked down for this project if the marker does not have the same views as you,
Personally i think this is crap and you really need to get off your high horse.
16 billion colours and you choose the one i cant create !??!
Last time I checked it was called freedom of speech and "Personally I think this is crap" sounds like a pretty high horse to me. We're here to critique design work, not the content of that design. It's not a political forum, even if political posters are put up for critique. Get a grip.
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haha Excellent work! It definitely has a constructivist quality to it (and previous whiny indignant comments notwithstanding, the political component is also apropos). I would suggest, however, using Live Trace on the jets and on President (Glorious People's Leader) Obama to give those elements the appropriate period character. Take some time and tweak the Live Trace settings and refer to old posters of Lenin, Stalin, and other mass-murdering communist thugs. Also, think about redoing those stars in Illustrator and hold down the alt/option key while you're dragging out the star shape to make the sides straight. I don't know about the upside down As... I see how you're going for a Cyrillic look, but those may be a bit much. Great use of color, grid, visual hierarchy, and unity, though. The previous commenter may well be right that you could lose points for espousing views divergent from your professor. Academics exist in fantasy realms well removed from reality and tend to panic and lash out when their insular views are challenged.
funny but too much overweighted... look the stars and exclamation.
inconsistencies on paragraphs and margins.
"N" could be inverted. Cyrillic alphabet style could be more explored.
background orange gradient needs soft random interventions, red surfaces too.
yes I'm brazilian xD
Thanks for the tips about making the stars.
As for the "A's" I was just playing around with the type, and I thought it looked interesting, but upon reading your thoughts I have changed them...all...back to normal.
I researched a number of sources, and your right no upside down "A's", however the type in the constructivism posters was always playful and that's all i had going on with that.
Also inverted the "N's".
What do you mean by interventions? Are you saying that I should add some inconsistencies throughout to give it a more dated look?
Lastly how do i post the revised poster without replacing the original on the top of this thread.
Thanks
forgot the word "inconsistencies" xD this is related for some margins and spaces that you need to work on to make it uniform. Margins are important parts of any design.
yes, use sponge or some effect to create them if you started to make them on "change" banner.
usually these tipical construtctivism posters has no of these effects, it's full solid colouring because their graphic process and shapes are simple.
some people posts the new version on last of replies, or you can create a new critique.
yes I'm brazilian xD
if you have a look at dafont.com they have loads of Russian inspired typefaces
living on dreams and custard creams.
that's where these fonts came from. karnivore and molot.
Interesting. And the added bonus is you could switch out the names and the Obama photo with a picture of Bush and it still works.
yes you can change too xD
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I'd junk all except one of those bullet points, Constructivism centered on ONE strong point as a focus, not a list. After that, i'd blow up the picture of obama really big, still off to the right side, ideally in a constructivist illustration, not as a photograph.
on a side note, wtf is with everyone's political opinions, save the "bawwing" for another time!
I'm the last person to be political, much less about American politics, but this piece seems really amateurish and immature. Are you creating something to get a message across, or something to get your opinion accross? What is the purpose of this poster?
Did Obama spend BILLIONS in campaign money? If so, was it tax payers money or money raised for his campaign? Sell our souls to China? You might as well add that Obama thought there were 57 states or put that 'shopped photo of him circulating the internet of him holding a phone upside down. While you're at it, entertain the idea that maybe Obama will eat your children if you don't succumb to his will.
To me this comes off less as informative and more as propaganda therefore I'm less likely to take it serious. No amount of design will be able to help you with that.
This isn't about piolitics, as Mintsauce stated this is NOT a political forum and I'd hate to see it turn into one. It's about content in a design you're working on. To me, that's just as important as fonts, colours and layouts.
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the content is only debatable in the way it is written (whether it achieves the appropriate feeling and language it strives for) If a design is based on a style with historical roots in propaganda, why are we going to expect that "omg, dis so not factually correctez!!!"
Obviously, this emphasis on propaganda is furthered by the strong statements in the poster.
I still believe the people here are having a passive aggressive political bitch fit.
I really don't see anyone here having "a bitch fit". I mean, besides you of course. But I guess you're not a fan of people having a different take than you on something. Must be fun.
Leaky Penny
Check out what I've been up to lately!
http://petersonjoseph.com
I'm going to print it out and eat it.
-Unknown Artist
*yaaaawn*
rant over!
It is intended as propaganda, as most constructivism posters were primarily propaganda...right?
I am not trying to get anyone to change their beliefs, obviously there has been no soul selling, but if you read that far you may get a laugh. i am just trying to create a poster that is in the style of constructivism, that portrays current happenings.
If you don't agree with obamas politics you may laugh to yourself or tell a friend to check it out, if you do agree with obamas politics you may say i hate this poster and tell a friend i am a piece of crap.
Bottom line is, i am doing this as a school project, i would like to get a high mark, i want critiques because i think it is important to get opinions from people with experience. I appreciate the suggestions that i have received thus far and i will post my updated piece shortly.
thanks
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
- Voltaire
That being said, do more research into posters. There's potential for a powerful piece here.
Leaky Penny
Check out what I've been up to lately!
http://petersonjoseph.com
I'm going to print it out and eat it.
-Unknown Artist
If it truly is intended as propaganda - it would not be "humorous" (and by that I mean there would be no ATTEMPT at humor). A propaganda piece hailing Stalin would emphasize the GOOD things he had done for the mother country - it would NOT be pointing out the things you consider negative in a sarcastic and calculated attempt to belittle him and his policies. So - in effect - your poster is the exact opposite of the project requirement. This is a good learning experience for you because it's better that you travel down this wrong path NOW when it won't cost you a client who - unbeknownst to you - loves Obama, his policies and what he represents to the world. One thing you have to do as a designer is put aside the politics and anything else divisive. Assuming most people in the US are either democrat or republican (or liberal / conservative - however you want to frame it) - you are (most likely) offending fully ONE HALF of your audience with this piece. Are your politics that important to you? Because if they are, then that's the business you should be in - politics - not graphics.
Now - specifically - what else is wrong with it? The upside down !!!s in front of change - Spanish is the only language that uses them in that manner, if I'm not mistaken. The upside down A's? Bad enough on their own, but in some words - Barack and Obama, for instance - you actually have one of each... one upside down and one upside right. WTF is that? Which language uses two different letterforms for the same letter? "Together We Can"? The slogan was "Yes We Can". If you're alluding to it - at least allude to the correct phrase. And if you're going to go down the list of offenses in an attempt at humor - they need to have a grain of truth to them. Every one of these exaggerations could just as easily apply to Bush or Clinton or 3/4 of the other presidents from the last 50 years.
thanks
then i guess they have a grain of truth don't they
Just trying to help - you can take my professional advice or not - it's up to you. My personal advice, btw - would be a lot harsher. When you consider Obama actually HAD campaign posters in this vein (more or less) with the Shepard Fairey stuff (Hope, etc...), I see this idea as not very inspiring or original and it certainly pales in comparison to the actual posters Obama had out there in '08. Now there's nothing wrong with being inspired by others or even blatantly stealing from others - as long as you're not obvious about it AND/OR you put your own spin on it. This poster - to me - required zero original thought and the execution appears as though you took a 2 second look at a Soviet-era poster and recreated it from memory a week later. So if I'm your instructor, I'm ripping you a new one for both (lack of) "idea" AND execution and giving you an F.
As always... jmho.
OK It's your school project. =]
Professionaly you could be more discreet (and will find some critiques that guys made until now)
look this real world Obama poster at Berlin:
SOURCE: http://crookedtimber.org/2008/07/26/back-to-the-futura/

yes I'm brazilian xD
That is nice
When I saw the thumbnail: "Oh that looks cool!"
When I saw the full piece: "Ewww..."
Let's separate this into three components:
1. The pure design of the visual elements
2. The piece's relationship to your "source material"
3. The tone of the content, the delivery of the message - NOT the message itself.
1: Disjointed, harsh. Your angles are all at severe angles that fight with each other. It doesn't present a feeling of dynamic tension, it presents a feeling of mish-mosh. Very weird line intersections, particularly of the change banner and the red square below it. Where are you trying to guide my eye? Change banner covers too much of the gradient transition of the rays behind it, but the rays are off-putting anyway. Jets? They look like slapped-on clip art. So does Obama for that matter. He looks shoe-horned in as an afterthought, not an deliberate design element. EVERYTHING is hard to read, so your viewer is not going to bother. Have you not taken a typography class?
2: I'm no expert, but even after a rudimentary Google image search I can see that Constructivist art emphasizes focus on a few elements, repetition of forms, bold shape and color schemes (often with just a few colors), and a strong sense of motion, typically in one or two directions. You've ripped off superficial elements like the jets, stars, and rays, but you've missed the boat entirely on how those elements were arranged in their original forms.
3: Are you mocking Obama? Mocking the people who compare him to fascists? Is this even a mocking tone, or are you being serious? Propaganda posters have a direct, clear, message, usually very proud and sincere. In trying to substitute design with base cleverness you've failed to deliver your message, though I suspect there wasn't mush of one to begin with.
Your inspiration is very cool, and you seem talented and ambitious enough to make this work, but too impatient to do the research and brain work required to pull it off. All artifice, no substance. Slow down, look at your subject in depth, and stop getting in your own way.
Here's the way it's executed successfully:
Taken from http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/gordons_republic/archive/2008/12/01/battlestar-galactica-goes-constructivist-with-recruitment-posters.aspx
Give it another shot. This time replace Obama with Clinton and drop in the oval office desk to set it all off.
Here's a reference video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSVYkQoFADs
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The problem with Alex Jones is he thinks everyone in power is connected to some grand conspiracy. So they're yelling at Obama today - 2 years ago they were yelling at Bush and 10 years ago he was yelling at Clinton. That's his business - professional nut job.
Let's see how long he will last with yelling.
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wow - this kid came here asking for a design critique. i think to even mention the politics contained in it is both self-interested and counterproductive
Because design shouldn't spark debates.
Leaky Penny
Check out what I've been up to lately!
http://petersonjoseph.com
I'm going to print it out and eat it.
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