Creativebits.org

an All Creative World site
ladylee's picture
141 pencils

Do you design in the "dark", or in a bright room

Just curious, b/c my work has suddenly decided to turn on every single flouresent light in the building ON, claiming that we have to comply with OSHA standards (which I am finding is un-true)...and claiming that it increases prductivity.....anyhoo, wondering how most of you designers prefer to design....PERSONALLY, I love it w/ no lights on, and maybe a small lamp near me, or the window light only....

What is your preference...?

Commenting on this Forum topic is closed.

mara06's picture
2549 pencils

Depends on how you feel about going blind. Working in front of a monitor (or watching TV, for that matter) a dark room is an extremely unhealthy idea.

Mara

morse's picture
69 pencils

It's ok if you turn the brightness way down.

ChrisD's picture
0 pencils

We have the lights on at my new job. I prefer dark and worked that way for 10 years before. I have to admit my eyes used to be very strained in the dark in the past. But I did hear somewhere at some point in time (don't take my word for it)that if you look overtop and past your screen and your eyes cannot focus on something in the distance, then it strains your eyes. Hence the lights on. Something like that.

gwells's picture
1711 pencils

i'm not sure that's completely true, mara. it may have been moreso in the past when everyone used CRTs. and it may have been partial wives tale, too.

personally i *HATE* fluorescent light. thankfully my company has three settings on the fluorescent lights above me (3 tubes, settings are 1, 2, or 3 tubes on). regardless, i generally climb onto my desk and unscrew either all or all but one tube. glare sucks. i prefer natural light.

ladylee's picture
141 pencils

yeah, when I say "dark" I more so mean either a room with natural light, or dimmer lighting...the flouresent lights are killing me, I am wearing sunglasses now, and that makes it difficult to see the screen/colors/detail! ahhh!

3dogmama's picture
1991 pencils

Imperceptible to the human eye, fluorescent lighting has a flicker. This flicker is a Migraine trigger (I can vouch for that). Do they want healthy, happy employees or not?

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

Ivan's picture

Natural light will surely increase your productivity. Fluorescent light will decrease over time. You will indeed get frustrated because of the flicker. You must use it together with incandescent light. A designer must care for his eye-sight even if it means you have to fight with your superiors for this.

KellyR's picture
525 pencils

I work under fluorescent lighting, but also have a large source of natural light next to me, too... so I get a lot of both.

When I come in in the mornings, though, and I'm one of the first people here, I definitely don't turn on the overhead lights... just open the blinds to the window and work by the natural light until someone else comes in and turns on the overheads.

Really not that big of a deal to me... guess I'm used to it is all. But when given the choice, I prefer to work next to a natural light source with no overhead lighting. I can't have it that way, though, because if the overhead lights were turned off, others in the building not close to the natural source would be straining to see their work (not all of us here work exclusively on a computer which emits its own light - there's a lot of putting pen to paper where sufficient light is needed to see what's being written or sketched, etc.)

JimD's picture
2617 pencils

It has been proven over and over by optometrists and other doctors that watching TV/Computer monitors in the dark does absolutely nothing to your eye-site. In reality, working in bright light situations actually hurts because your eyes are forced to focus on more than one thing - which puts more strain on them.

That being said, I don't care for working in total darkness, but I would never work with overhead lights. A nice desk lamp off to the side is much more pleasing to work with if you don't have a window with natural light near by - which has been proven to increase productivity and reduce stress and fatigue.

Technically speaking, it's much better to NOT have fluorescent lights if you're working in a color-critical environment. They give off a light cyan/yellow glow that alters your perception of color. If you're really stubborn, you should not only insist on no overhead lighting, but the walls should be painted a neutral gray color as well - but I've seen only a few places that actually adhere to that.

-----------
Visit The Graphic Mac for graphics and Mac OS tips, reviews, tutorials and discussion.

Mintsauce's picture
1004 pencils

Fluorescent lighting is a bad choice - as is said before it is a migraine trigger, and will cause eyestrain (hence the migraine.) I work with natural light - kept of the monitor, because it will influence your colour perception. (And what's up with all these reflective monitors? pet peeve.) I also have an incandescent desk lamp that shine up on the wall behind my monitor - this has been proven to reduce eye-strain also.

If you're working on a CRT, which many colour picky designers do you'll also have issues with the refresh rate and fluorescent flickering causes even more problems.

You can always get a screen guard or whatever it's called.

The Construct Agency
Building Creative Brands for People

mara06's picture
2549 pencils

Well, this is an interesting and informative thread :-)

When I was in the theatre, I was fascinated by lighting; when not performing, I sometimes designed and ran lights for shows. I like to play with lighting now in my studio and have an interesting mix of sources. I use full spectrum bulbs and tubes wherever possible. They're expensive, but worth it to me. Actually, I don't usually bother to turn on the overhead fluorescents, since I have plenty of other light sources, including windows. I do find, though, that the extra flood of light energizes me when I really need to crank out the work.

Mara

accleme's picture
4 pencils

to design in cold is white. to design in warmth is yellow.
black is useless and unhealthy. have a window and some view...
walls should be white so anything can happen on them. but most important... be enjoying. and then... you will find white is warm and warmth is yellow and black is black. and you may not even listen do the birds.

Tice's picture
42 pencils

Right now I have a candle and that IKEA paper lamp, setting the light in my room to dimmed, but still bright enough to even read a newspaper. Perfect for me.

Ivan's picture

I think that's ideal.

3dogmama's picture
1991 pencils

ditto.

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

Flub-Dub's picture

i guess my perfect light setup would be "intimate" with several low power sources spread around. i also used to have a red bulb behind my desk that would cast a red glow on the wall behind the computer.

either way, fluorescent light gives me a creepy feeling of hospital and reminds me of a cold, antiseptic corporate environment. warm light has a more evocative feeling to it. natural light is good but id only let it in if the view outside is nice and inspiring rather than a depression made out of concrete.

pitch black with only the monitor on is not unhealthy. i remember reading somewhere that they created this myth in the 60s to sell more lamps.
but when im working in pitch black with only the LCD on i find myself making more typing mistakes, especially with complicated shortcuts. im not staring directly at the keyboard when typing, but i guess peripheral vision helps you establish some reference. and since my whole computer is black, that doesnt help either.

Flub-Dub's picture

oh, one more thing worth mentioning.
with age, eye performance deteriorates. even if they dont need glasses, people over 40 y.o. might experience a state of confusion in low-light setups because their eyes are less sensitive to light.

gwells's picture
1711 pencils

lol... i don't think you'll win any points with the over 40 crowd here with comments like that. care to rephrase that in a way that makes sense?

Flub-Dub's picture

oh, i see.
i thought it was common knowledge that human eye performance degrades with age. it wasnt meant like an in your face fact but rather important to mention in the context of the discussion.

here is a clear quote from wikipedia:

With aging, the quality of vision worsens due to reasons independent of aging eye diseases. While there are many changes of significance in the nondiseased eye, the most functionally important changes seem to be a reduction in pupil size and the loss of accommodation or focusing capability (presbyopia). The area of the pupil governs the amount of light that can reach the retina. The extent to which the pupil dilates also decreases with age. Because of the smaller pupil size, older eyes receive much less light at the retina. In comparison to younger people, it is as though older persons wear medium-density sunglasses in bright light and extremely dark glasses in dim light. Therefore, for any detailed visually guided tasks on which performance varies with illumination, older persons require extra lighting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_eye

im not feeling that young either :/

gwells's picture
1711 pencils

there's a difference between "degradation of eyesight" and "state of consusion." i thought that was common knowledge, too, but maybe you need to be over 40 (or even 30) to understand the difference. :P

3dogmama's picture
1991 pencils

I'm confused...

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

gwells's picture
1711 pencils

natural light is good regardless of the view. natural light makes colors look, well, natural. it's better psychologically, too. working in an architecture firm, i've come to appreciate natural light even more. daylighting is one of the biggest requirements we have when building.

if you don't like your view, put up some sheer curtains or other window treatment that allows light in w/o giving you your poor view.

dburney's picture
22 pencils

I've worked in several different offices with different lighting conditions. I definitely prefer less light. That doesn't necessarily mean complete darkness. One time I had a relatively small office with a huge window with blinds. It also had some large trees and was on the west side of the building. I had a large torch lamp in the corner and a desk lamp on my desk. I could open the blinds to let in the natural light whenever I was in the mood. I never, ever turned on the overhead fluorescent lights - it was ideal.

A previous job had me in a cube-farm. With bright, flickering, buzzing fluorescents. It drove me crazy - but in the corporate world you have little control over these things. Definitely curtailed my creativity some times and was rather distracting. It may improve productivity in general - but not if your job description includes being creative.

tylermoney's picture
6 pencils

It just depends. If it's florescent lighting, I tend to prefer to just work in the dark until I need to look at a print out or something. The buzz/hum of florescent lights is miserable, not to mention the light gives me a headache. I can certainly deal with halogen lighting more.

mara06's picture
2549 pencils

One problem that darkness creates is that it becomes harder to look up from your (monitor) work to change your focus once in a while, which I believe eye doctors recommend. There's nothing to focus on in the dark!

Mara

gwells's picture
1711 pencils

that's fair, but i don't think that, in general, we're talking total darkness here. we're talking about variations in amount of light.

JimD's picture
2617 pencils

I generally wake up and start working around 3:30 to 4 a.m. - so I use a desk lamp (halogen) until around 7:30 to 8 a.m. when I open the blinds on the window next to my desk.

-----------
Visit The Graphic Mac for graphics and Mac OS tips, reviews, tutorials and discussion.

steveballmer's picture
627 pencils

Mac people - Dark!

PC Users - Light!

http://stevefakeballmer.wordpress.com/
I am not Steve Ballmer pretending not to be me!

JimD's picture
2617 pencils

PC people - burnt-out completely!

-----------
Visit The Graphic Mac for graphics and Mac OS tips, reviews, tutorials and discussion.

3dogmama's picture
1991 pencils

I prefer dark meat to white.
White is too dry.

A black dress flatters.
White matches the appliances.

I'm fond of Billie Holiday; not too keen on Diana Krall.

And without the dark, there can be no light.

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

accleme's picture
4 pencils

JUST BE COLOURFUL ON YOUR MINDS: KNOWING THAT TO BE GOOD IN BLACK AND WHITE IS OBLIGATORY. NOT THIS OR THAT LIGHT WILL CHANGE THAT. SINCE OBVIOUSLY ALL OF U KNOW THIS BE MINIMUMLY HEALTHY WITH LOOKING AT CONTRAST!

accleme's picture
4 pencils

JUST BE COLOURFUL ON YOUR MINDS: KNOWING THAT TO BE GOOD IN BLACK AND WHITE IS OBLIGATORY. NOT THIS OR THAT LIGHT WILL CHANGE THAT. SINCE OBVIOUSLY ALL OF U KNOW THIS BE MINIMUMLY HEALTHY WITH LOOKING AT CONTRAST!

Creativebits is a blog about creativity, design and Macs. We also have a critique section where you can post your work to get opinions and a forum to discuss any design related topics.

Recommend us on Google

Latest critique

Do you need a great new logo?

If you need a logo for your company or product you can get it done with us.
In our logo store you can pick from over 28,000 pre-made logos that will be customized to your name for free or you can post a contest for us for just $250 and our designers from all over the world will submit dozens of logo design suggestions to your specific needs.

Marketplace