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natobasso's picture
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3dogmama's picture
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Will have to look into that since I use both Quark and InDesign, but...I'll only bite if they've fixed the GD PDF and Duotone issues! I really put a client through the hoops of frustration a while back. Thank god she's still with me and has awarded me another big project.

Hmm, reminds me, still owe her a night of wine drinking over that one. Ah, the sacrifices one must make. ;)

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

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natobasso's picture
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I'd say stick with ID if you do any exporting of pdf files. ID just does it better.

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Powerpoint is not a design application

3dogmama's picture
1991 pencils

Agree about the PDF export, but some of my clients' and their suppliers still demand Quark files.

Also, another bone about Quark--wonder if the 8.0 version allows a designer to lay out something larger than 48"? What gives with that?

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

3dogmama's picture
1991 pencils

Man, now laser issues tonight...with...a...Quark file.
Black is white.

"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa

"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber

ireid's picture
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To me its a lot of improvements a little too late.

They've closed the barn doors after the horses have bolted!

Adobe's just gonna ramp up inDesign. The war continues! lol

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

KellyR's picture
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I used to be a Quark die-hard back in the day. I think the last version I ever used, though, was 4.something.

I lived and breathed Quark - thought it was the best thing around and really struggled when I was hired on at a place that used... prepare to shudder "PageMaker 6.5". I swear every day you'd hear me in my office griping. "WHAT? Why the hell do they do it this way? Ugh! Quark is so much EASIER!"

But then I just got used to PageMaker, and then when they launched InDesign with the CS suite and the LOADS of improvements, I stopped complaining.

I'm not sure Quark could win my business back voluntarily. I've definitely embraced InDesign and just really love how it works so seamlessly with Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, etc. Only makes sense - they're all Adobe products! Of course they're going to play nice with each other.

Hat's off to Quark for making improvements, though. If I'm ever forced to go back, I'm sure it'll make it more pleasant to work with.

JimD's picture
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That "new and improved" interface looks worse than the old one. Ick!!!

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natobasso's picture
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Ha ha. Polishing a turd.

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Powerpoint is not a design application

gwells's picture
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5+ years ago i might have cared. but they put so much effort into alienating their client base, they've made it almost impossible to want to go back.

i have quark 7 loaded on my machine, but i'm pretty sure i haven't loaded it up in a year. not since i got the indesign plugin (Q2ID) that will open any version quark file.

natobasso's picture
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Agreed. I haven't used Quark since 2004 and I certainly wouldn't use it to create web pages!

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Powerpoint is not a design application

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