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elbandido's picture
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HELP! CMYK to Pantone

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natobasso's picture
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If you want a freelancer I suggest you find one in your area. If they accept $50 for this work you need to scold them vigorously because it's going to take more than an hour or two to fix your problem. This is a RUSH job which means they better charge you 1.5 x as much for the quick turnaround. Their rate better be AT LEAST $35/hr as well.

Besides, how many colors will you need converted? If it's more than three you might as well just print in 4-color because your print job, if it's all pantones, will be prohibitively expensive.

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Natobasso
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elbandido's picture
128 pencils

I didn't realize it was so much work. Sorry if I insulted anyone.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” - Albert Einstein

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natobasso's picture
3951 pencils

You have to understand the type of person who frequents this site: Working designers. We all have a certain standard of fair pay. Asking someone to do your work, pretty involved work depending on your design, for $50 is a bit of a low offer, don't you think?

It's not insulting, but it does seem sort of odd that you'd think any of us would do anything for just $50? That's barely enough to open your file and take stock of what needs to be done. I think you'd be better served by finding a designer in your area. Better yet, why not just do it yourself?

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Natobasso
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elbandido's picture
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So how much would YOU charge me? Also, can this be done (I am assuming you said go with 4 color because of the gradient). Finally, I wish I could do it myself - this was actually my first attempt at working in Illustrator (I am a Photoshop person and have never used Pantone) and I have researched online how to go from CMYK to Pantone, but I couldn't find something useful.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” - Albert Einstein

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natobasso's picture
3951 pencils

1. Charge: Don't know as I can't see the jpg you posted. It sure wouldn't be $50. I normally charge $75/hour with an hour minimum. (Hence the suggestion to find someone local).

2. Pantone: Why are you trying to convert to Pantone when 4 color will suffice? Gradients, especially, are difficult to convert and generally end up looking like crap if not handled with care.

I have a suspicion that someone (or a website?!) told you that Pantone colors are more "exact" and you're trying to take that advice when, in fact, you really don't need any Pantone colors on your job. If you post a better link to your image, we'll know for sure.

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Natobasso
dirtandrust.com
"Powerpoint is not a design application"

gwells's picture
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you should be able to do it yourself.

the gradient will disappear. that's just the background, anyway, not the logo.

your text should be white (or maybe black if printing on white).
then pick a blue, a pink, and a green and assign those colors to the three swirls.

this will still give you a 3c to 4c job, though, and with pantone inks instead of CMYK.

plugz's picture
1245 pencils

Technically you could but I'm assuming either you have created this for someone and they have asked for the pantone references.

What you've got there isn't a logo, it's not something you can convert to pantone, if you strip it bare and take away the awful background colour then you might just be able to call it a logo or a brand.

Even if you can get every pantone out of that design, if you're trying to do it to save money on the print because a 2 colour print will be cheaper etc. it won't work as you'll end up using more ink colours as you'll have CMYK + Pantone spots.

elbandido's picture
128 pencils

Sorry for the late response. I need Pantone because the printing company for our paper cups requires Pantone. I will get rid of the gradient and just have a solid color.

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” - Albert Einstein

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mbennett2's picture
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Everyone here is correct in saying that this job may as well be printed in 4 color, but if the printer requires conversion to pantone, then convert you must. This is something that you really should know how to do, rather than paying someone to do it for you. I realize you are new to Illustrator, so let me see if I can help you out. This is the way I would do it...

The first thing you need to do is get rid of that gradient. Delete it all together.

Highlight the "yogurtology" text and color it. Black would be best at 100% black only. Now you can see your type.

Bring up your pantone swatches, probably uncoated if they are going on paper cups. I am not sure what platform or version of Illustrator you work in, but in osx and in cs3, it goes window>swatch libraries>color books>pantone solid uncoated.

Find a color that matches one of your flourishes (lets say a light blue to start). Then select the element that you need to convert and click on the color you want to switch it to in the pallete. That color will now no longer be CMYK, but will instead be a pantone color

Repeat that for the other two elements and you will be done.

If you want to change the color of the type, just use the same process.

natobasso's picture
3951 pencils

Actually you can stop at making the logo 100% black. This allows the printer to make a plate that's 100% and they can then print any Pantone they want with it, rather than coloring it with a Pantone; they'll convert this file to 100%K anyway.

Each element that gets its own pantone gets its own layer, is 100%K and is saved separately from the others.

Of course ask your printer first before you do skip what mbennett has described above.

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Natobasso
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elbandido's picture
128 pencils

Thanks so much mbennett2. Because of you I was able to change the colors myself and save a few bucks. I really appreciate your help and if you are ever in Scottsdale look us up and have some yogurt on us!

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” - Albert Einstein

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” - Albert Einstein

mbennett2's picture
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Ooooh, Scottdale. Stayed at the Four Seasons a few years back and played golf at Troon North, The Biltmore and TPC Scottsdale. Fun weekend.

Mintsauce's picture
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There's a nifty piece of software that can do this for you - It's called CMYK to SPOT.

You can get it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/2392239/CMYKtoSPOT.zip.html

It's an OSX app. Works great - not 100% but close.

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