I need to send one indesign document (in PDF) for printing
mhtahir (175 pencils) | Sat, 2007-04-14 07:35when i expert in PDF some text part is missing why?
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Select the text that is missing and chose menu-type-Create Outlines. If the text disappears the font file is damaged or missing. Its a good rule of thumb to actually outline ALL your text BEFORE sending off to PDF land. At least thats what I do as final artwork stage.
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I'm going to disagree. You shouldn't need to outline all of the fonts in every job before sending it as a PDF. If you have good fonts and make a proper PDF (making sure to embed all fonts) you shouldn't need to outline the fonts. In fact, it will bloat the file size. If I did that with my monthly magazine, the PDFs would be WAY too big to ever send out. It would probably choke up the imposition software/RIP my printer uses.
But I will agree that there is probably a bad font in the document (hence the disappearing). I think could also have to do with transparency (drop shadow, transparent text, etc But that last part is a guess).
BUT where I am, where our font folders are a hodge podge of Type 1 and True Type fonts, its hard to explain to a client that his font defaulted to 'Courier' by telling him that the font is the wrong type and or damaged after it was embedded. So to make life easier on everybody we just outline everything, slap the pdf on CD and send it out as FAW.
I am curious how much smaller can a PDF get when you just embed the fonts rather than outline it?
I do think that outlining it tells you what might be wrong with the font in this case. . . but I agree that you don't HAVE to do it all the time.
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Just out of curiosity I tried this. I filled a one-page document with type (insert placeholder text). Made a PDF with and without it outlined. Embedded=40k Oulined=1.4MB. So it makes quite a difference.
As far as fonts defaulting, that shouldn't be happening. If you are making a proper PDF (with embedding and subsetting) it shouldn't matter WHAT font the user has on their computer, it should output fine (that is the beauty of a PDF, you don't need to send fonts or images to your service provider/printer). You should have the defaulting only if the font isn't embedded properly (some fonts prohibit this) or if the font is damaged (and thus doesn't embed properly). I don't claim that I am 100 percent right (heck, I could be 99 percent wrong), but the problems you are mentioning seem to be introduced when the PDF is created.
Ok. PDF's embed fonts by default right?
So how come sometimes entire blocks of text go missing when we send embedded fonts to the newspapers? Granted the people doing the ripping aren't very skilled in dealing with PDF's BUT if thats the nature of the beast then you have to minimize potential errors, so we outline just to be safe (insurance)
Actually, quite funny. I just got a set of PDF's from a freelancer who still uses Illustrator 8! swears that its better, well that may be true but he went and outlined the files and the file size was HUGE. So your point was proved. When I told him (after reading this) to not outline the files, everything was fine, mind you he was using stock fonts like Helvetica and Optima. So the real test would be when you download a 'pretty' font from one of those free font sites and then. . .
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PDFs don't embed fonts by default.
You need to make sure that you embed fonts when using Acrobat Distiller by going to the Settings menu and select Job Options, select the Fonts tab and select Embed All Fonts then click OK.
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We don't have distiller, and probably won't get it anytime soon. So its back to outlining before publishing!
"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda
Do you use InDesign or Illustrator to make your PDFs? You can embed the fonts without using Distiller. I have the entire Creative Suite, but never use Distiller and still get my fonts embedded.
. . . say so! lol
We use CS2. Mostly Illustrator though.
"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
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PDF can be tricky and I would be the LAST person to pretend I know all, but I do a lot of work with PDF files (in the magazine I send to our printer, other print jobs and the ads I receive for our publication). Whenever I've had problems with fonts in the PDF it is because the fonts were bad or the PDF was made incorrectly. While a good PDF is easy to make, there are so many options that they are just as easy to mess up (as I will readily admit I have done more than once).
If you have Acrobat 6 or above, the program has a flight check (although we use PitStopPro which was worth EVERY penny we spent on it) and should tell you if your fonts are embedded or not.