Illustrator and pantone colours
ren_nay (47 points) | Wed, 2008-09-03 00:40Hi I have designed a logo in illustrator and need to make the colours pantone I am having trouble doing this I chose spot colour from the colour menu but I think it is still coming up CMYK and usually when you pick a pantone colour it will come up with a colour list which has the pantone name and colour beside it so you can pick your pantone colour but I cant seem to find this any where.
I hope this made sense.
PLease help me.
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Swatches > (click on small arrow to the right of the swatches tab) open swatch library > and pick whatever PMS swatches you want.
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Make sure the object to be changed gets the new color applied to it. The picking a color step isn't quite enough to make the change.
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Natobasso
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Suzanne's right, but I wanted to clarify that the complete heirarchy for gettng to a selection of Pantone (and several other) palettes is:
Window
Swatch Libraries
Color Books
PANTONE uncoated/uncoated solid
Seems to me that a lot of these basic functions like this in Illustrator used to be a lot easier.
Mara
agreed. for some reason, "color books" just didn't sound very intuitive to me and it took me a while to find them when they first moved them there.
Hi,
I tried that tip but it doesn't work. I'm completely NEW to CS5, just installed it yesterday after using CS for quite a long time (very ashamed of it..). I need help with the following:
1. How do I see my pantone library; in CS I remember it was under windows/swatch libraries/pantone
2. where are the caligraphy brushes???
Thanks a lot!
How about if you know the Pantone name or code you want to use, is there a quick way to search for it? I'm sure I did this in the past and can't find the feature, or was it in InDesign?
Its in the Pantone Swatch Palette BUT you have to enable "Search Field" by choosing it in the little pull down menu on the side of the palette. Its VERY counter-productive. . . I don't know if they have changed this in CS3, but it sounds to me that they haven't.
way to go Adobe!
"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda
Oh yes, there it is. Good job having it off by default Adobe.
Thanks ireid
It also a lot easier if you select list by name. Otherwise you just see all those wonderful colours with no description whatsoever.
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+1. And you can even start typing the number and it jumps you to that color in the list.
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"Powerpoint is not a design application"
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out of curiosity. . . why do some of your posts show "+1" before them?
"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda
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i'm presuming it means he agrees.
i generally see "+1" or "-1" on sites where there's a karma system set up. so if someone says something you agree with, you can give them a "+1" to their karma and people will often state in their post "+1" to note that they actually gave them a karma point for their comment.
not 100% sure that's what natobasso's going for, but that's my guess.
gwells, you are spot on in your assessment of my +1 comments. :)
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While we are on the subject, let me run something by you all.
I am on Illustrator CS3 on a MacPro (intel). When I bring up my pantone swatches, I change the view to "large list view" and then click "sort by name". This is how I have been viewing my swatches for years.
If I close the pantone swatches pallete and then re-open it, it holds this setting. If I close Illustrator and open it back up again, it reverts to the default view. So then I have to go through this again.
It seems to me that older versions of Illustrator held this setting until you changed it again. Does it work like this on your computers? It isn't the end of the world, but it is a minor annoyance to have to do this every time I use the pallete.
Man, I'm glad you posted that question. Same thing with me. I've resorted to leaving little swatches open all the time on the left--not too obstructive with a large screen or a neighbouring laptop. Plus...albeit screen colours... you get to have the entire guide at your fingertips for selection. And, yes, for some reason, the pantone palette remains open in this format each time thereafter that you open Illustrator.?????
"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa
"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber
I noticed this in CS3, as well, and it's frustrating. I have a specific view for my swatches that I prefer for all of my Illustrator needs, but only to find that I have to redo it every time I open/close Illustrator.
Any suggestions on how to fix this? Or is this just another "bug" in CS3?
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"I am not sick. I am broken. But I am happy as long as I can paint." ~ Frida Kahlo
www.onegirlcreative.com
I use CS2, not CS3, but you used to have a default illustrator template file that would determine your tool box settings. Go into and change the pms colors/list in that file and every new file (or existing) you open should stick to your settings.
I notice PS CS2 forgets its toolbar settings all the time. Even defaults to the "first time opening" screen. Argh. (I'm using it on a PC; gasp).
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Natobasso
dirtandrust.com
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w/o checking, could this be one of those things that is remembered on a "document level" if you change it with a document open, but on a illustrator default level if you change it with no documents open?
Only because I have closed and reopened the EXACT same document, only to have to reopen Swatches and resave as my original settings.
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"I am not sick. I am broken. But I am happy as long as I can paint." ~ Frida Kahlo
www.onegirlcreative.com
"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa
"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber
Locate the default illustrator document in your Illustrator app folder. Whatever changes you make to that doc should translate to the rest when you open them.
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Natobasso
dirtandrust.com
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You can hit the drop-down arrow on the swatches menu and choose "persistent" to make illustrator remember your swatches, but it does not hold the view setting.
Very annoying, I agree.
I saved it to "persistent," and when I just reopened Illustrator this morning, my EXACT swatch view was there. Awesome!!!! One less thing I have to worry about now.
Thanks!
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"I am not sick. I am broken. But I am happy as long as I can paint." ~ Frida Kahlo
www.onegirlcreative.com
holy crap... i've been NEEDING this!!!!
okay, where is this persistent thing? Can someone do a screenshot? When I click the arrow on the top of my swatch palette, it doesn't have "persistent"????
nevermind... not the same thing. I am wanting it to be "small list view" on my big swatch palette-- not just the PMS color book palette.
All my dreams are dead.
I haven't had an opportunity to try any of the methods above, but that is exactly what I was/am striving for too. I already have my palette book open all of the time and am wishing to revert to the "small list view" as well.
"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible."
— Frank Zappa
"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber
I am not sure why that worked for you, since I have had persistent checked the whole time. It still won't keep my list views.
Ever since I changed it, every single time that I open Illustrator now, there is my swatch palette (the PMS one). I love it, and it's the same view every single time, too.
I am using CS3 with Leopard. Could that be it?
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"I am not sick. I am broken. But I am happy as long as I can paint." ~ Frida Kahlo
www.onegirlcreative.com
I am on Leopard using CS3.
Adobe Illustrator has a file residing in the Plug-In folder called "Adobe Illustrator Startup". This is pretty much your default file. So to save a new default file, you just have to make sure everything you want at startup is there, the view is how you preferred, and that goes for your swatch palette. Resave the file over-writing the old "Startup" file and your Startup window from then on will be how you like it.
A short cut I have used to designate pantone color in my swatch palette is to simply create a new swatch with the exact name of the pantone color. Then using "Book Color" option to get the right CYMK mixture for display purpose.
Steps to follow would be:
Swatch Palette
New Swatch
Type "PANTONE xxx c or u" "xxx" being whatever pantone number you need.
Select "OK"
Double click on the new swatch you just created to get the window back up
Under Color Mode select "Book Color"
Voila, you have your color without even opening up the PANTONE Color Palette.
This works like a charm if you know exactly what pantone you want to use. It will only work if you use the same naming convention as the pantone color palette. Meaning PANTONE all in caps, follow by number, follow up "c" for coated or "u" for uncoated. You don't even need to know the correct color mixture for whatever CMYK or RGB mode you are working with.
In addition, if you need to make a pantone color change, you don't have to choose a new pantone color and reapply color to individual elements. You just need to rename your pantone color, click OK, double click on the swatch again and then select "Book Color". It's really a sweet feature.
I know this "Book Color" feature well because this resulted from a feature request I wrote to Adobe.
Here is a link to an apparent solution/workaround, though it is a bit involved. I haven't had the time to try it just yet, but judging from the responses, it appears to work.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?14@@.3c05273c/0
I haven't tried it BUT its right up there with the iTunes 8 removal of the pref to remove the little 'arrow' next to the song list, now you have to do a terminal hack to do something that was ORIGINALLY so easy to do before!
way to go Apple and Adobe! Sister and Brother! LOL
"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda
I want to make a remark on the use of Pantone colours in Illustrator.
When you choose a pantone colour and you want to have a correct view on how the colour will look printed you must go to the View menu and choose "Overprint preview".
This is the same in InDesign.
hope it helps