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miklad's picture
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iSlate?

Anyone seen this? The 'net seems full of rumours about it.

Gotta say it looks and sounds superb!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISlate

Miklad

'Keeps losing his mojo, then finding it again'.

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wgzn's picture
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there is a LOT of discussion on various forums. and i hope its all wrong. the predominant theory is basically a 10" iphone/itouch - which i think is ridiculous! if the apple tablet/slate whatever doesnt run full mac OSx and ALL associated adobe, microsift, etc apps its going 2 be an epic fail.

the world already has full featured netbooks. it doesnt need a brand-centric, ego-driven effort.

personally, i say put a capacitive touchscreen on a macbook pro and be done with it.

miklad's picture
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I agree - I think it would be great if turned out to be a fully-fledged Mac running a version of OS X. Basically a mobile mac. I'd love it.

Miklad

'Keeps losing his mojo, then finding it again'.

McG's picture
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The world already has what you're describing, too. The reason you may not have noticed is because it failed to survive in the market.

Microsoft has been trying to wish and hope the Windows-based equivalent of exactly that into the market since at least 2001. It went precisely nowhere. It failed for a number of reasons, most relating to the fact that it was nothing but a plain old laptop that you had to use a pen with instead of a mouse, and it ran stock Windows XP (or, nowadays, Vista or Vista-Point-One), which was designed specifically for use with a mouse and keyboard. Even as recently as CES, MS was demoing tablets running Windows 6.1 behind touchscreens, complete with mouse-only UI that you were supposed to use with your fingers. And then scratching their heads wondering why nobody cared.

The whole point of the tablet form factor is that you're interacting with the screen directly, not through a proxy like a mouse. This requires a substantial rethink of how many things on-screen are interacted with, what they should look like, how big they should be, how they should be arranged, etc. Turns out, Apple already went through this whole rigamarole — that's how they came up with the iPhone's UI, where nearly every single smartphone that came before it had been using a shrunken desktop UI. That tells me that even if this upcoming tablet has far more powerful apps than the iPhone (and it absolutely should), it'll probably be closer to an iPhone than a Mac in how you interact with it.

Just imagine the monitor in front of you now is a capacitive touchscreen; if you were to try opening a Finder window, dragging it by the titlebar without hitting either the toolbar buttons or desktop, selecting a few files and moving them to a different folder (both of which your finger would likely cover up), then hitting the exact right "traffic light" to close the window, it would be incredibly frustrating. More so if you had to go through that for everything. To compensate for the size of your fingers, most UI elements would have to be scaled so big that it would crowd out much of the content you're trying to work with. It just doesn't make sense for your fingers like it did with a finely manoeuvrable mouse pointer.

I think any apprehension about the "limitations" of the iPhone OS being used on a tablet is probably premature. First off, they would never just plop the exact same OS onto a completely different device; they've had the opportunity to optimize it for their own hardware designs (duh). Secondly, I certainly think they'd be aware of how skull-crushingly lame and pointless it would be to have the exact same class of mobile software running on the tablet as on the iPhone, and have probably made it possible to create something much closer to desktop-class apps (within the finger-friendly UI paradigm), perhaps making some examples of their own to show off. (iWork Express, anyone?) Lastly, they've been around to witness the rise and fall of Microsoft's tablet concept, too — and they're known for walking into existing markets (i.e. MP3 players, smartphones) where nobody seems to be "getting it", and showing everyone how to do it correctly. They wouldn't take the risk of breaking into a new sector of the computing market with the sole goal of repeating Microsoft's old mistake.

All of the above = IMHO. :)

P.S. Asking for Adobe apps (I'm assuming you mean CS4-calibre stuff) on what may essentially be Apple's answer to the netbook sounds like a recipe for disappointment. It can't, and won't, be everything to everyone. That's what you have a full-fledged computer for.

P.P.S. Holy crap...that seriously didn't sound as long in my head. Sorry, ha!

wgzn's picture
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there already is a "mobile mac" its called a macbook/air/pro.

there is ZERO functionality of a netbook/tablet pc that something in apples existing line doesnt already cover. all thats missing is to apply the iphone/itouch interaction layer to an existing apple/osx product. if they want to include 3g/4g connectivity - all the better.

but thats all there is to it. and apple had better have paid SOME attention to the pro-user. otherwise i predict another "lisa" in their future. but maybe im dating myself with that reference...

qwertyale's picture
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would be great if who has an iPhone could share 3G to one or two iTab (don't like tha name iSlater) devices.

yes I'm brazilian xD

Anonymous's picture
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How about if it was named iHate instead of iSlate?

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qwertyale's picture
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I slate all

really don't work... Steve needs to read our critique until tomorrow xD

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qwertyale's picture
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my choice: iBook 2

=D

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Alex's picture
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Joke or not: I think you're right about the iBook name. This is the perfect opportunity for Apple to bring it back. The 'i' would show it's a part of the iPod/iPhone/iMac family of entertainment products filling a gap between the iPhone and the iMac. The 'Book' would align it with the MacBook line as a capable machine in it's own right - and speak directly of it's role as the saviour of printed media (TM)

(Mainly, though, I've always just been a fan of the name iBook)

qwertyale's picture
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Yes and a renewed iBook must be naturally 'The new iBook' for new or regular customers and apple fanboys like us xD

iBook all

xD

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qwertyale's picture
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monkey1979's picture
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Well we find out tomorrow!

Can't wait for the Keynote, Steve always does a brilliant job presenting. I am more excited by the possibility of iphone OS4.0, and maybe new iphone hardware.

I have a MBPro, so a tablet like device seems a little redundant to me. Having said that, I'll probably see it, start drooling and splurge out on one, destroying one of my credit cards in the process.

living on dreams and custard creams.

wgzn's picture
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hey. if it solves my needs, they can call it the icookie-sheet for all i care...

qwertyale's picture
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live coverage by gdgt blog with pictures:

http://live.gdgt.com/2010/01/27/live-apple-come-see-our-latest-creation-tablet-event-coverage/

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qwertyale's picture
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live re-coverage by qwerty-me

xD

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qwertyale's picture
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wow Bob Dylan at the speakers! xD he said Steve's favorite xD

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robbie's picture
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oh man, all they are gonna announce is a new ipod, woop woo...... yawn! Please Please have something good to announce.

16 billion colours and you choose the one i cant create !??!

qwertyale's picture
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this gdgt coverage rocks!!!

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qwertyale's picture
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wow it's IPad! xD

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qwertyale's picture
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better than I slate all xD

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robbie's picture
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that thing looks so sweet, i need one in my life.

16 billion colours and you choose the one i cant create !??!

qwertyale's picture
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I only feel strange about the big gap between four icons grid

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monkey1979's picture
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the grid could do with being tightened up a lot. I'm sure there must be a preference pane that could alter this though.

want.

living on dreams and custard creams.

qwertyale's picture
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Heyyy, art brushes for artists =D

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qwertyale's picture
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uhuu iBooks is alive xD
now as new app for iPad (obvious)

really the name iPad is better than iBook for a multi-purpose device.

engadget could start to read us xD xD xD

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qwertyale's picture
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500-700 bucks for wi-fi models
600-800 for 3G models

bad news for our credit cards xD

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monkey1979's picture
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yeah... I'm drooling...

living on dreams and custard creams.

Anonymous's picture
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It's an interesting choice of name considering pads traditionally denote (no pun intended) sketching, lists, doodling, shorthand note-taking etc... transient uses where a sheet of paper is torn off and discarded, as opposed to a journal or book. I wonder if this is Apple purposefully positioning it so subscriptions to daily newspapers and weekly periodicals become a natural fit. Unfortunately for me i(ncontinence)pad is an unfortunate near-homonym/acronym/ellipsis which will give me subconscious goose bumps forever. In fact, analysing the thought process behind the word pad in general is kind of.... well.... absorbing to say the least.

Write a wise saying and your name will live forever – Anonymous.

http://theghostwriterinthemachine.blogspot.com

robbie's picture
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@ Anonymous: hahahha, you have scarred my thoughts for life!

16 billion colours and you choose the one i cant create !??!

miklad's picture
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Well I must admit - I feel let down.

It's basically a larger iPhone - without the phone.

Jeez.

I'm sure it appeals to 80% of the people on here, but me - nah.

To me it's just another excuse for a heap more threads on here titled "how to rip a DVX of more smut to your iTab".

:(

Miklad

'Keeps losing his mojo, then finding it again'.

gwells's picture
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more of a large ipod touch. it's missing the same things the touch is missing, except one flavor adds 3G.

my response is "meh." there's definitely a market out there for it, but i own a laptop and an iphone and i don't see that this has enough functionality to move me from my laptop and iphone. i don't desperately need the extra screen real estate on my iphone to plunk down $600+ and another $15-30/mo for it.

qwertyale's picture
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iPhone is minimalist

iPad is mom-will-access-her-recipe-list and
dad-works-hard-on-his-spreadsheet.

xD

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monkey1979's picture
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I want one, maybe it won't help streamline my workflow, but it'll certainly be nicer to use while lounging out on the sofa of an evening than a laptop.

living on dreams and custard creams.

qwertyale's picture
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serverjohn's picture
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That got a laugh out of me :) Awesome

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