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Lines in placed Photoshop Images

ireid's picture

Hi all this one's upsetting me. . . when I place a photoshop file into Illustrator there are horizontal random lines across the image. Even printing shows up these lines and saving as a PDF doesn't help. Any reason why this keeps happening?

The lines disappear if I EMBED the file into Illustrator. . . but that's too painful to use.

Help please!

S Baskar's picture

Please save as in different

Please save as in different format like Tiff or EPS and try in your case.

ireid's picture

Thanks. . .

But saving as layered tiffs are slower for me and I need to keep going back and forth between the layered file and the illustrator document. . . so a an EPS file is ok BUT not ideal. Can you tell me WHY these lines appear?

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

mara06's picture

Layered tiffs?

I guess you know you should flatten the image before you save it as a tiff. You can keep the original placed image as a native Photoshop file, with its layers accessible, if you need to go back to it, but then, to update the image that's been placed in Illustrator, you would need to re-place another tiff version (saved as ProjectWhatever_1.tif, ProjectWhatever_2.tif and so on).

Honestly, I can't figure why you're having this trouble. I feel for you! Hope you're not on deadline!

Mara

stephanie's picture

EPS

In older than CS3 versions of Illustrator, I found taking over EPS files caused the least amount of problems. Sorry I don't have more advice!

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pokie's picture

Is this a PSD? I have never

Is this a PSD? I have never had this problem with PSDs in illustrator. Are you adding an effect to them? Do you have a clipping mask? I need more details. If you could post an example, that would help too.

ireid's picture

Its a CMYK PSD. . .

but also occurs with RGB PSD's, I'll post the example 2morrow, but essentially its a layered PSD file saved in CS2 placed into Illustrator with the Link checkbox checked. . . when I go to save the Illustrator file as PDF (doesnt matter which type of PDF) the lines that are actually SEEN on the placed PSD file are seen in the PDF AND OUTPUT to the colour printer AND RIP devices.

Its like horizontal lines in white that look like the file has been cut into strips. . . uneven strips too. . .

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

pokie's picture

What PDF type are you saving

What PDF type are you saving as?

ireid's picture

Doesnt Matter which type of PDF preset. . .

even with PDFX it still does it.

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

DMBpride's picture

resolved?

I have run into this issue as well, opening .psd or jpeg or even tiff in illustrator, from photoshop. Interestingly enough, when using live trace on an image brought to illustrator from photoshop, the lines get traced and cause slices in the image, as well.

Anyway, was this ever resolved?

ireid's picture

No it hasn't been resolved

There is really no rhyme or reason to it. . . line in PSD RGB OR CMYK images of ANY resolution. The only thing I can think of is that the resolution dictates HOW MANY lines are created! Other than that I just have to remember to embed the PSD file each time b4 saving as PDFs

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

natobasso's picture

Curious, why not just place

Curious, why not just place your images? I'd recommend also using InDesign rather than Illustrator for your layouts...

That said, Illustrator likes to think sometimes that the 8bit preview image used to represent the image is the actual image.

Can you try your images in InDesign and see if the lines persist on print? Even in pdf you'll see lined artifacts but this won't mean your print will show it, so print is most revealing. If they do you know it's your images to blame.

Hopefully you aren't trying to print jpgs (CMYK jpgs especially!)?! Or anything other than 300dpi flattened tifs? I've found these hardly ever (won't say never!) error out or carry artifacts. You can set their 8 bit preview to tif which might help stave off the lines...

A related, but not exactly identical thread on CB:
http://creativebits.org/embed

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DMBpride's picture

my situation

I am placing a .psd image (photo with transparency) into an illustrator document for a packaging file. There is no line in photoshop, but it is there in ilustrator. The .psd is 300dpi.

natobasso's picture

Try the tests I

Try the tests I suggested...

Also, use command + y to see wireframe view. Are there any stray lines over your photos in illustrtator you may have missed?

Why is there transparency in your photo?

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natobasso's picture

Also, any printer will mock

Also, any printer will mock you if you embed layered psd files in your illustrator files because you're handing them a HUGE file. They want small files that won't clog up their RIP machines on the way to press.

Place flattened tifs and export to pdf/x-1a files for best print results, and I think you'll find the lines go away as well.

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ireid's picture

I know. . .

but this is in layout stages. When you have to keep switching back and forth between PS and Illus. . . its very irritating having to keep embedding the pics B4 you save a PDF to get approvals. Mind you where I am changes comes five six times a day and if I MISS one embed step the client writes back (consistently) 'Please remove lines from artwork. . ." OR "why are there lines on the artwork?"

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

natobasso's picture

Link to a flattened tif and

Link to a flattened tif and it will update automatically. :)

If you save to PDF/x-1a the files are embedded for you.

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ireid's picture

Flattened tiffs can contain transparency in illus?

Sounds like a good idea if I could do that. . . just seems like an extra step that I DON'T need. . .lol

maybe I'm just being lazy!

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

natobasso's picture

You can do it lazy or you

You can do it lazy or you can do it right. :)

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ireid's picture

HA! touché

Where's the 'photoshop' button? lol

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natobasso's picture

Just use the 'design'

Just use the 'design' button. :)

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eleventhirtyeight's picture

I'm having the same problem

I'm having the same problem in InDesign CS3 with PSDs and TIFs. I want a specific type of drop shadow that I created behind images within text with a wraparound, so they HAVE to be transparent images.

Wherever the TIFs or PSDs are layered in InDesign and then export as a PDF, I get jaggy horizontal lines wherever the overlap occurs... ONLY when it's printed. The PDF looks fine onscreen, but when I print I get the lines.

This is ridiculously frustrating and the only thing I can think to do is compromise my design and go with regular, run-of-the-mill drop shadows. As far as I'm concerned, since EVERY single application I'm using is made by Adobe, this should not be happening.

natobasso's picture

flattened tifs

If you ever encounter a problem with transparency the best way round it is to just create a flattened tif of the area where you want the effect (or a background of the entire page if necessary, depending on the design).

ID's drop shadows are nice, but don't always print well.

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pokie's picture

We've been dealing with this

We've been dealing with this a lot in CS2, but I believe it's fixed in CS3. The only way we've found around it is to go back into CS1 and resave.

ireid's picture

So it IS a bug!

Thanks, thought it was just me or my version of it.

Nice. well I guess its up to CS3 for me!

in about ten years! lol

"Try not, Do! or do not, there is no try."
-Yoda

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