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natobasso's picture
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Thanks for the link!

I wonder if someone can just jettison all IE browsers so we can just use Firefox? :)

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Mintsauce's picture
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During my rain I will lobby for Internet Explorer to be banned internationally. Oh, and world peace of course.

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natobasso's picture
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I think you'll get world peace before IE dies. :)

Oh, have you heard of 'Multiple IEs'? Download it and you can have IE 3-7 on your computer at once! Great for browser testing (PC only)

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Duluoz's picture
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Bringing IE into (recommended) compliance is a great thing. I would also like to see Dean Edwards or another brave soul work on a script library for Firefox to bring it into further compliance as well. Lets try and remember that there is only one browser currently in compliance that meets all current recommendations, and thats Opera. Lets put the praise where it belongs and lets keep pushing for further compliance among all browsers for the sake of accessibility and a uniform, fully functional, user experiences. :)

natobasso's picture
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I'll have to try Opera. Do you test your websites with it?

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Duluoz's picture
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I do all my development in Opera because I know it uses a correct box model (passes Acid2), etc, first. Then all thats left are hacks to address issues in IE and Firefox and Safari, etc. Makes it much easier and you'll notice the issues each browser has like sore thumbs.

natobasso's picture
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Do you use * hacks for IE? Tell me more...

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Duluoz's picture
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I use * to target IE7x and _ to target IE 6x and below.
Example: .foo { padding: 5px; _padding: 3px /*IE6*/; *padding: 10px /*IE7+*/ }
Everything gets a padding of 5px. IE6 and below get 3px. And IE7 gets 10px.
Very rarely do I ever need to employ the use of hacks though as you will learn become less necessary as you develop.

natobasso's picture
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Yep, I find the more explicit the code the less can go wrong by chance. :)

Do you use Multiple IE?

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Duluoz's picture
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No - I like to use Virtual PC. This allows me to test under Windows and Ubuntu (Linux) without touching my host OS.

plugz's picture
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Now if only Microsoft would do the same.

plugz's picture
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You know, I almost typed that with a straight face.

phalkunz's picture
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Thanks a ton

andrej's picture
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Has anyone done some serious testing of the script? I have heard over at stylizedweb.com that there are some problems with ie6 in XP. Loading times are quite long and sometimes the whole thing just freezes...

Anyone suggestions?

natobasso's picture
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If you mean javascript I've seen IE6 work great with a drop down menu script so I'm not sure scripts are a problem in it.

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andrej's picture
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Oh, I guess there was a misunderstanding, natobasso.

I meant, if anyone tested the IE7 script by Dean Edwards overall, which the original post was about. What I would like to know, whether one can employ without risc? Is it bug-free (more or less) and what about performance?

I had some display issues when applying it and testing it in IE6 on XP and, as I said, have heard about screens freezing and slow loading times.

Thanks again

natobasso's picture
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Do you have version 2.0 of the Dean Edwards script?
http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2008/01/ie7-2/

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andrej's picture
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the version 2.0 beta 3. Fresh from google :)

Do you have any experience with it?

natobasso's picture
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I don't, but what I've read on the web thus far seems promising; no reports of serious slowdowns or errors.

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andrej's picture
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sounds great, thank's alot.

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