McIrv Logo
McG (42 points) | Fri, 2010-01-08 06:14I've heard many times that designing a logo for yourself is a difficult thing to do. No kiddin'. :)
My parents and I are in the process of forming a company which will let us pool our skills, talents and expertise. The name, McIrv, comes from our two last names (McGovern and Irvine). Services we'll be offering include:
- Graphic design
- Traditional illustration & artwork
- Business forms analysis, design & management
- Copywriting & proofreading
- (possibly) Web design
- (possibly) Music & audio design (but likely not at this point)
...So, naturally, not having tons of experience designing brands, I've been a little stumped as far as finding a single, distinct image or metaphor for all that. At this point I'm shooting for ideas that at least work with the name. The first concept I did was such a non-idea that there's no need to post it (read: boring, blocky "M"), but this one seems (at least to me) like it might be going somewhere.
Sadly, I'm no good with a pencil — the traditional illustration is my mother's domain — so I'll admit I hopped straight onto the computer with just a mental image for this one. This concept builds an "m" in negative space, then the apparent "ribbon" wrapped around its edge separates from the letter shape, loops around to form an i-dot and flies free. The first figure is that initial roughing-out. After that, I refined it in 3D in order to get consistent shapes based on an apparently solid "object". Two typefaces are also shown with it, but I'm sure there are others somewhere out there that might suit it better.
What I like:
- Looks a h*** of a lot better than my last idea, trust me
- Incorporates both key letters in the company name
- Flappy bit on the end could symbolize any number of things, from paper documents to, um...free-spiritedness
What I don't like:
- Not sure if it's too slanted...timmmmberrrrrrrrrrr!
- Text seems to need to be set off-centre to appear balanced (not really a big deal, just makes me want to get OC about it)
- Hard to find typefaces that work with this bloody thing (ideally, I'd hoped to be able to use a single type family for just about everything in the company to tie it together...not so with this, it seems)
What do you fine folks think? I'm new to this game, so your help is greatly appreciated.

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Not really feeling this, that 'ribbon' looks more like a roll of toilet paper to me!
I think its too abstract, without the explanation i would not have a clue what it was,
I think you should get your mothers illustration skills involved, get her to sketch some of your ideas and then you could tidy them up with your computer,
Talk between you and make sure you have a true understanding of what the company will be and write a mission statement. Once you realize this you will be able to come up with a mark or logo that truly represents your company.
The concept of the m and i in negative space works well you just need to refine it.
16 billion colours and you choose the one i cant create !??!
Hello Mcg,
you have two strong names and a pleasant name synthesys.
but chose just a McDonalds logo (the 1st of their older logos) with a gift...
I think you could rethink your strategy. =\
Something like the name wrote by different type fonts. =]
yes I'm brazilian xD
where is the ribbon? Sorry but the whole thing seems to me a bit complicated here.
Thanks!
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RANAMAJU
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Crap...I'm seeing toilet paper too.
As pointed out by qwertyale, the concept needs to be reworked.
"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber
Good work on the brief. Fantastic.
One of the problems you're facing is you guys offer a wide variety of services, so it'll be next to impossible to represent them all in a logo.
I don't know how serious you guys are in regards to the name, but McIrv sounds like fast food. It's sounds a little gimmicky. McGovern and Irvine sounds like a professional, no nonsense company.
In regards to the ribbon, it's not working. It looks like a ducks head. You might want to go for somethign more general, without being generic. I think for this situation a type-only logo might be in order.
I love the thought process behind thit though, you've come up with a solid brief and even critiqued yourself. I'm looking forward to seeing more ideas from you. In regards to the skecthing, you don't have to be a Rembrandt to come up with quick thumbnails and trust me, being able to quickly put ideas on paper is a skill that will serve you well in your career.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get a McGriddle.
Leaky Penny
Check out what I've been up to lately!
http://petersonjoseph.com
I'm going to print it out and eat it.
-Unknown Artist
Thanks, it's good to know what I'm doing right, too. To be honest, I'm not so hot for the name, either, but nothing else has been good enough to stick so far (i.e. Creative on Purpose and the notorious...*shudder*...McVerve). We're actually already in the middle of redesigning some forms for the Nova Scotia government under the McIrv name, but the company itself isn't yet registered, which I suppose still gives us some leeway to change it if we come up with something better. (I hope.)
P.S. I've gotta admit, though, I would've derived a sort of evil cheesetastic glee from using the tagline "Over 250 Verved". Yeah, I'll go flog myself for that now.
Thanks for the great feedback so far, guys. (And that's a good point about the toilet paper, Robbie — ha!)
The last time we sat down after pancake breakfast to hammer out what services we'd each be able to bring, my dad came up with this vision statement:
"We promote a balance between human elements and material or technological influences in the design of visual and written products.
Our purpose is to provide value to the business relationship through consultation, education, design and production management."
Reading this again, I think there are some ideas that could come of it, I'm just not sure what they are yet. I'll see what we can do there. Thanks again!
QUACK!
Leaky Penny
Check out what I've been up to lately!
http://petersonjoseph.com
I'm going to print it out and eat it.
-Unknown Artist
PLOP!
16 billion colours and you choose the one i cant create !??!
Nope. The name doesn't work and the logo doesn't either. I think there's a tendency to over think these things when the final piece is supposed to be simple and memorable. Anytime you have to go into some long winded explanation concerning design it usually means you've failed visually. That's what happened here - the logo makes no sense without the explanation. The name sounds cheeseball - like a computer game or something. Very unprofessional. Something like M&I would work a lot better.
Yeah, I'm definitely seeing a duck. Or a Loch Ness monster thingy.
I know your company does a lot of things but I'm sure tours of Scottish lakes isn't on the agenda. I may be wrong...
BTW - we have a disinfectant product in the UK called Toilet Duck. They may be interested in using this if you decide it's not for you! :)
An interesting up tempo name. But it does not say anything. Becauce of this your logo but be clear. The logo does not work for me. Graphic design, new media, illustration etc. does not come out of the wood work. Do more reseach and see what other companys have for a logo.
(McGovern and Irvine)
I'll play:
Vinegove Communications
The IrvMc Group--could treat part of the logo with MC2 further denoting a two-family operating business.
Govine Communications
"Art -- the one achievement of Man which has made the long trip up from all fours seem well advised." - James Thurber
I think your name seriously needs help, you should work on that first.
Agreed – I've brought it up at our (brief) sit-down this morning and we'll all be brainstorming further amidst our other work. That's the nice thing about being a family business: we can have morning meetings on the tail end of our weekly Sunday pancake breakfasts. :)
I like the name option MC2.
E=...
What do you get when you breed a llama and a duck?
Sorry, but I find this quite repulsive.
i find mcirv REALLY uncomfortable for a barrel of reasons:
- if said just right, sounds like a chicken clucking
- if said just right, sounds like a cat getting ready to yarf
- doesnt actually sound like a name. youd be just as well off calling yourselves pildunt or bladlaf
- just doesnt roll well off the tongue.
- phonetically, i personally draw connections to perv, swerve, curve, nerve. none of which i think reflect well on what youre doing
i think if you HAD to blend your two names mcvine works way better.
and yeah. all that about the tp and duck. pretty much right on the mark. i get the m. i get the i. and i suppose the ribbon thing kind of makes sense. but i wonder if you might consider it more from a binding, or gathering perspective rather than toilet paper or register tape...
I wouldn't worry further about the negative connotations of this name or logo — we've pretty much solidly left them behind at this point, and are trying to think of new things again. (@wzgn: we did, until mid-December, have a cat who suffered from a very...uh, "finicky" digestive system among other things — she's survived by her younger, adopted sister. Maybe that was in our subconscious all along...hglk, hglk, hglk, HGLK...HGAAACK!)
One direction being considered is to go with "McGovern-Irvine". This two-name thing could convey professionalism, stability, etc. It'd also unquestionably be our identity, literally. What I don't like about it is that it could just as well convey that we're a bloody law firm. It just doesn't inspire me, and doesn't seem to fit too well with the more artistic end of the company's services IMO. (Nothing against law firms, of course — my aunt's a lawyer, and we love her.)
Another name we've (er, mostly I've) looked at is "Imbued". This name could imply that our work, whether business or creative, is "imbued" with our craftsmanship, unique talents, etc. and thus passes on those positive qualities to the client. Adjective names such as this also provide fun opportunities to integrate the name into sentences in our communications (i.e. an invoice could have a footer saying something like "thanks for having your work Imbued"). I don't know about other people, but the word's immediate connotations are positive to me. The main objection I've heard to using it is that it's too "flashy" compared to the two-name solution above, although I always thought of imbued as a relatively calm word.
Thanks for all the awesome feedback so far! Any thoughts or ideas regarding these names?
i think imbued is also iffy. again for a few reasons. primarily because on its own, it just kind of hangs there nebulously. i find myself waiting for the next word. like imbued with ___________?
and that idea about integrating the name into catchphrases is WAY trite in my opinion and just comes off as cheesy.
now if you added your service (or something else) it would be better. like imbued solutions. imbued services or imbued document design services. i start to feel better about it.
but i also like the idea of two strong names. it doesnt break any new ground creatively but it sounds WAY less self-conscious than a lot of the cheeky stuff people try to come up with.
if you go with the two names, have you considered "irvine-mcgovern" ? at first blush, i think it rolls off the tongue a little nicer than "mcgovern-irvine" - but thats just my 10 second opinion.
OK, good to know. I believe the "service line" that was going to be attached to our previous names was "Illustration, Graphics & Writing", which I know is a little on the long side...but then, nobody's making you say the whole thing each time. :P Initially, we were going to try for "Creative Services", but when we ran a name check on one of our previous name candidates, the staff person advised us that it wouldn't be specific enough. I'll pass around your comments to everyone. (Well, maybe not the cat, but nearly everyone. She doesn't seem to be pulling her weight in the company lately, instead endlessly insisting that I let her onto my shoulders for a cuddle. I fear she'll never learn good design practices this way.)
McVine Communications
could be fine
=P
yes I'm brazilian xD