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mara06's picture

I have a wonderful client who has been a delight to work with. I've designed a logo for her stationery. (The cross and PRN stands alone on some promotional items.) It's the bottom one in the image you see here. The client has asked me to modify the design for the stationery as you see on the top (the obe with the word "services smaller and tucked under the cross.

My feeling is that because her company provides many useful medical services, the word "services" in her company's name should be prominent in the logo, rather than in the second position she prefers. She has said she wouldn't mind my making the word "services" a little larger, but she would still want it in that secondary position.

I'd be grateful if my Creative Bits colleagues would tell me which of these two -- and only these two -- options they prefer, and why. My client has heard my arguments in favor of my design. I'm interested in knowing what you think without any concern for hurting my feelings, and will share your comments with her, whether they support my case or not. I believe this will help us to finalize this project one way or the other.

Thanks very much!

Please help my client decide
maryD's picture

I like the first one

I see your point on making the word "services" bigger, honestly i don't think it is all that necessary, I vote in favor of making it smaller like in option 1, because the word services is the same color blue, your eye is drawn to it without having to make much effort or having to make it bigger, how about changing colors like light blue on the "cross" and darker blue on the "services" in option 1 that could add emphasis..anyway, i think in terms of hierarchy the first one is better than the first and while the "services" is smaller it is not looking any less important. In version 2 "services" is too prominent, it makes the design look much more conservative. The elements share too much similarity. the first one looks more like an icon, much more memorable, the second one looks to me more like any other logo out there.

hope it helps!

mara06's picture

Thanks for your comments,

Thanks for your comments, Mary. Not what I was hoping to hear, but I value all input. ;-)

For the record, the word "Services" has to be part of the logo when used on my client's business cards, letterhead, and whatnot. There's no hierarchy involved because the name of the company is "PRN Services." This is a medical organization, so "conservative" is actually exactly what we want.

Mara

maryD's picture

you are right

I think you have a good point, and as i always say, thank you for helping me see that, not that that was the purpose of this critique. Anyway, I'm glad i got involved because it gave me a chance to learn something too. Hopefully your client will follow your advice.

ps. thanks for your help on my mag cover!

3dogmama's picture

I feel that the top one's

I feel that the top one's placement of the word SERVICES looks like an afterthought, thus destroying an already impressive looking logo. And if you ever wish to use it in a reduced format you will suffer through fill-ins of text and/or a word that will resemble a smear. Not good.

I like the second option better, and as noted above you had said that for branding purposes the PRN and cross have been working well as a stand-alone. I think it's smart how you've balanced the words, reducing the overpowering SERVICES through your usage of a screen. If there is a great concern about the strength of the word, you might also wish to try doing another version up in a roman face to assist with the de-emphasization...if you really want to go there. Personally, I think the bottom option is working and wouldn't change a thing on it.

Overall, great work. This is one of the best logos I've seen created in a very long time.

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mara06's picture

Your criticism is all

Your criticism is all exactly what I've explained to my client. That top one is her idea, not mine.

I thank you very much for the "best logo" comment. That is makin' my day! :-)

Mara

pokie's picture

What would happen if you

What would happen if you moved the services to under the horizontal cross, like on top of the vertical bar?

I don't like the treatment of "services" on either one of these.

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Pokie, thanks for chiming

Pokie, thanks for chiming in. Points taken.

Mara

stephanie's picture

Numba 2

I agree with 3dogmama on this one. The cross/PRN element could work on it's own (for smaller usage, etc), but adding such a small "services" like in the first one makes it look like an afterthought, or like someone else took their logo and added it.

The only thing that looks a little strange to me (it might even be an optical illusion) is that the "services" in the second logo looks bolder than "PRN", which might be the reason your client feels it's too prominent.

The second logo looks confident. Definitely my choice.

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mara06's picture

Thanks, Steph. It's

Thanks, Steph. It's interesting that you picked up on that optical illusion in my version of this thing. The fonts are exactly the same, but since posting this yesterday, I've added a bit of a stroke to the reversed PRN for the very reason you cited. Great minds...etc. ;-)

Mara

walks_in2_trees's picture

when you come to an impase go for the third option....

looks like an impase, I think the question should be: "How do I convince her", not, "which looks better"

Maybe you can use the abreviation for the word "Services" as a compromise. If not, "Services" might fit her chosen location better if it lined up with the angle of the cross better, instead of the vertical line up with the right-most point that it currently has, but it may be too small to read on a business card, is her version legible when printed as if on a business card? If she still wants it though, you may have to give in (with a signed release: "Against all advice..." so you can't become a scapegoat after it's printed)

or I guess you could try this:

mara06's picture

Again, I am not doing any

Again, I am not doing any more variations on this logo. It's down to mine and the one my client asked me to do. I'm not looking for ways to make her suggestion work, although I appreciate your thoughts on that; thank you.

Did you notice how your suggestion emphasizes "vices"? Pretty funny!

Mara

walks_in2_trees's picture

sometimes

it's a sales trick I guess... finagle things around until the only option left is an option of your choosing. Good luck, anyway, hope the situation works out.

natobasso's picture

Mara, why change the logo

Mara, why change the logo just because it's on letterhead? I say, keep it consistent. It is actually a good logo! :)

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mara06's picture

I know it's a good logo. My

I know it's a good logo. My client want s me to change it. That's the whole point. I need candy. Where's the candy?

Oh damn. Gave it all away last night. pfft!

Mara

natobasso's picture

Convince your client not to

Convince your client not to change it. :)

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dirtandrust.com
"Powerpoint is not a design application"

mara06's picture

Thanks to everyone who

Thanks to everyone who commented here. I've shared the feedback with my client, with some persuasive (I hope) final thoughts of my own. We shall see.

Mara

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