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Stroke Issues in Illustrator CS6

So i'm having weird things happening in Illustrator CS6. I have a path, and a stroke around it, and it looks just fine. Then I Unite two objects, and the stroke around it changes in a weird way, but the path looks to be the same. I have attached 2 screenshots to show you what I mean in a more visual way. Any clues on how to correct this? Any help is appreciated.

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YoungZM's picture
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Just to clear the obvious away you do have everything joined and no duplicate single points sitting on the joined points, correct?

Alex's picture
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It looks almost like there is a brush effect applied rather than a stroke. Is there anything odd going on in your Graphic Styles palette?

pokie's picture
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Have you tried to outline stroke or expand?

wgzn's picture
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ive watched illustrator progressively get more cheesy features and less stable since v10. im surprised it still even works

Art D. Rector's picture
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+1. They ran out of good ideas for new Illustrator features a long time ago.

wgzn's picture
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after some point you have to ask yourself. how much better does my hammer need to be?
yeah i guess you can put a screwdriver on one end. but thats just a half assed screwdriver.

and giving motion / animation features to photoshop? that just results in half-assed movies and animations. i dont understand why when adobe makes after effects and flash, why photoshop (or illustrator) should encroach on that feature set?

its because they are making these previously "pro" tools palatable to the untrained masses.

id rather see far fewer "advances" and more functionality

YoungZM's picture
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Meanwhile it screws us up in the industry who use the right tools for the right jobs and are stuck loading all the extra paint, laser sights, counter weights and rubber bands thrown onto it to make it look pretty.

I just find it ironic that most printers would prefer the flattest possible illustrator file possible. That means not using every tiny dumb feature in illustrator to do something very simple. They're making preproduction incredibly complex and hard for no reason.

Art D. Rector's picture
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The dirty secret of production is they tear your files apart and "fix" them if they won't print. Using new features or complex features in your file is a good way to ensure it won't print properly (or at all) and the production house has to figure out what's wrong and fix it. Software has always been ahead of hardware - that's why they're asking you to keep it simple.

fidel's picture
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There is always a war going on since the invention of DTP between software and the practice of printing. Reason, and of course that shouldn't be our problem, is that software solutions or options demand a lot of investment for the printers. For some printers that isn't a problem, others have a local or a specific workflow where all those extra's are not needed. So why invest. So if you trade your fancy ideas to them, they are not prepared for it. So all kinds of work need specific attention, comming from InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, QuarkExpress or even Word or Excell. It's not the software that is going to solve the problem, it is you knowing your business

Art D. Rector's picture
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If you've ever been on the production end, you know that even if the printer is willing to spend a lot of money and trying his best to stay ahead of the game - Adobe and the others are still going to be releasing products with features that printers (or more accurately - printer software) cannot handle without an accommodating software fix. So most - if not all - play the game the other way... "fix" the files so they'll print in the available work flow.

So far as "knowing your business" yes - true. Anyone who's been in that part of the game knows the ins and outs of software better than those who have not been on that end. I always found it ironic that the designers working for agencies always had a superiority complex when it came to production people when it was the production people who were pulling their asses out of the fire behind the scenes on virtually every job they created.

splitfilter's picture
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Little late to the party, but agree with your assessment of agency designers. We often joke about how they can make it look great on-screen, but can't get it onto paper. I'm forever modifying files to make them work because it's easier/cheaper than going back and forth 5 times to get something useable.

fidel's picture
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Jframe, if you can send me the original ai-file or post it here, I'll gladly have a look at it.

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