Test Logo...

wow.
I have no idea what I've just read.

it's not a daydream, it's a nightmare.

I consider it not the best way of criticism!!!!!! Better in general keep silent if you can`t specify or prompt what mistakes is in my LOGO!!!

I and don`t accept personally. Simply I wish to learn what mistakes here is and next time them to not repeat.
I the beginning graphic designer and I know that I still should be trained in much but I shall achieve the purpose!
hmm..... Visual identity - that here so does not coincide in a trade mark?

)))))))) Thanks for a book!!!
So at once also would give advice, Without any "nightmares" :P

This ''logo'' makes my head hurt. Did you say you used clip art for this?

Do something with ONE of those clip art dudes.

I don't know if you'll care about MY opinion here, but I'll be honest, okay? First of all, your script initials clash very badly with the clipart guys. They are both from two different worlds and convey an extremely confusing message. You need to find a font that puts out the same sort of vibe that the clip art inspires. Something that doesn't fight with the icon. Also, you'll have to establish some symmetry in where you place them. They can't just look like you stuck them in as an afterthought, you know?

Second, I personally would NEVER use clip art in a design. It's bad enough when we inadvertently come up with designs that look similar to others. Using clip art is just asking for duplication and possibly lawsuits.

Thirdly, and perhaps the most important here, you put your creation up here for critique. That is what you're getting, even when the people don't seems to be 'nice'. Sometimes it is those first reactions that are the most important. You simply cannot allow yourself to get offended. They are doing exactly what you ask them to do.

Yes, it is probably one of the most difficult things to do - have someone criticize something you created - but you can't take it personally. It is about the design, not your core humanity, okay? :)

Please leave. Please.

In the beginning, you got completely offended and concerned when several designers gave you their initial impressions of about your design, even though in your 'brief' you make it seem like you're just fooling around with some 'just-for-kicks' design. Look I'm sorry, but nobody wants to waste their time with some dumb logo with no real idea behind it. It's obvious this is something you did in your spare-time with little thought behind it, but then you're actually going to get offended when someone is going to spend as little time with your crappy design.

Your design is like a nuclear fallout zone- nobody is going to try and 'fix' it because it is so far gone, that the best thing you can do is leave it and start fresh somewhere else.

sorry, i know my response will make you unhappy as well.

this is terrible. there's no concept. it's just a bunch of stuff stuck on the page. things that don't match. multiple styles. lots of clashing.

if you want to get into design, understand that you have to start with a concept. an idea. something you're trying to communicate. if you've already done that here, your execution is extremely unsuccessful.

If you don't want to accept what people are saying here, and you would rather argue and defend it, you're probably in the wrong line of study.

You're taking this FAR too personally.

The fact of the matter is, the design is VERY bad, atrocious even. This is not meant to be insulting to YOU, but it is a simple fact.

I realize we're having a bit of a language barrier here, but you should face that fact without allowing it to offend you.

This conversation reminds me of a customs officer's story at the Detroit-Windsor border who was having to deal with a very ticked off visitor to both countries.

He screamed at the officer:
"YOU THINK I KNOW FUCK NOTHING!!!!? I KNOW FUCK ALL!"

The little figures remind me of the terracotta soldiers buried in Emperor Qinshihuang's tomb, except without any touch of humanity. They are just ghastly. They do not represent a "group" in the usual business sense. They are like some nightmarish marching THINGS. And they are marching away from the RJ mark, which is even more nightmarish. We are using the word "nightmare" so often in our comments because that's what those figures remind us of. I remember being very sick one time as a child, with a high fever. I clearly remember having nightmares where various cartoon characters kept marching straight at me like these figures in your design, in a never-ending line. Thanks for the memory, by the way.

The initial mark (RJ) isn't so bad, although its elongation is cramped and uncomfortable. You could "relax" it a bit by increasing the horizontal scale -- but not to the point where it is unnatural, as you did with the word "group." I would recommend that you restore that word to its font's original dimensions, or, if those are the font's natural dimensions, choose a different font.

Delete the marching men. They are just creepy and do nothing to enhance your friend's identity.

I wonder which language you normally speak?

I don't know what language, but the responses sound an awful lot like an online translator was used.

Bevel, emboss, satin, color overlay. My dear lord. You forgot the drop shadow!

I agree, there are too many effects on the RJ. When I said it wasn't bad, I was overlooking those things in order to concentrate on the more obvious issues. But yes, New Aruba Friend, you should be aware that good logos do not typically contain all those things. The design should stand on its own two feet in plain black and white. Embellishments can be added for special uses, of course, but if the basic design doesn't work in black and white, it isn't a good design.

Well if it wasn't a good design, it certainly made for a good thread. This thing has generated more posts than anything else since I've been here.

Best. Critique. Ever.