We need some critiques
phalkunz (49 points) | Wed, 2007-07-18 19:53My friends and I want a run a small design company and we came up with a name and a logo but we have like some critiques from you guys. We would like to send "new, fresh, and change" message through the name and logo. Please help us improve.
Thanks.
[Update1]
I've just redraw from my hand drawing. It was supposed to be like this (below) but I was lazy to put more effort in using pen tool. But i still like the first one though. Anyways, i hope this one doesn't look more like a leaf anymore.
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Very nice concept and design. I like the orange in the lower logo opposed to the mono version. The typeface is close but a few of the letter shapes seem awkward. [Especially the 'u', 'e' and 's']
Try a few different typeface combinations and I think you'll have it nailed. And I'd keep both the 'long' and 'bd' version for use in different situations.
BTW: I'd avoid putting the tagline information next to your logo. It belongs elsewhere. [Let the logo speak for itself]
Thanks for telling us the 'message' you're trying to communicate. Great work!
Thanks a lot for your constructive comment. I don't really get what you said in the typeface part though. Sorry that I didn't strip off the tagline text before posting it here. These together would only appear on the display box on the wall and business card.
Here is a overview of the awkward areas in the typeface.
It may be best to use a cleaner version.
Before
After
thank you so much for your time bro. Sure it it looks much better in the "after" one.
May I know what fond do you use?
I used Chalet London Nineteen Eighty (from House Industries) and modified it with a .5pt stroke.
Thanks
love it love it! i like the all green bud but with the orange type. the all green seems mora natural to me. good job!
I much prefer the first. The one with the orange contains too many colors for my taste, at least for a design that is supposed to represent a clean, slick flow.
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Michael
to me, the first one match the message most but it just looks bland that's why I made another version with orange color. Thanks you guys.
I'm all for presenting the entire name, and the spot green/white might give you more flexiblity in one-color venues. Of course, there's no reason you couldn't use the orange highlight on the bud and your specialties to balance the whole name written in white. Really nice job. Quite clean, and doesn't make me instantly think of other logos.
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A combination of the two, if you're looking for the one I like best. The second one seems more balanced. The first one has the entire title. I agree about the tagline for the most part. I think that for most things you should keep it to just the logo (without tagline) but it might be nice to have a small tagline on business cards, etc. Maybe shorten it, like: graphics . film . multimedia.
Are the two oranges the same on the second? It might just be because of the grey background, but the type seems darker. I definitely say keep the orange - it adds color and contrast.
Great job, I would love to see the final version you decide on. :)
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yep, the 2 oranges are the same.
Its odd to me that a leaf is budding.
Shouldnt it be a twig ?
Maybe its just me thats odd?
I like the top one most, prefer to see the entire name spelled out.
Love the colors!
Maybe I'm wrong.
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Bud turns into a flower or leaves, according to mac osx dictionary. the one in the logo probably not an exact bud but in the development into leaves. Anyways, i'm still not sure about this because english is not my first language so you may be right.
What's that, a dozen websites/apps now with a green leaf? Coda, Mint, Mymint, 9rules, let me find those other ones. How about a can of beer for the logo? Overused and unimpressive, sorry.
You're brand new here, how about suggesting some ways to improve it? Some ideas? After all, it's "Bud Design" if not a bud, what do you suggest in all seriousness? Until I see you come up with some useful ideas, there is really no point in your critique.
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sorry to upset you hehe but ummm these days it's really hard to find something totally new. Actually, i tried to avoid leaf and used bud instead and still people see it as a leaf or maybe i didn't draw it right. Thanks for you comment anyways.
However non constructive Chuck's post was - he is correct. His point is that the concepts delivery is far too similar to established brands. A designer can not use the excuse "...these days it's really hard to find something totally new". I did a simple Google image search on key words like "budding", "buds", and "leaves" and found many hundred variations and ideas of what a 'bud' can be viewed as. I would constructively suggest researching budding plants and the very interesting shapes and angles that would convey meaning without creeping to close to copyright infringement.
I know what you mean but I don't think my work closely resembles others' maybe but just the idea of leaf or bud. As far as I am concerned, the shape, the texture, and the composition of the bud (or you would call it 'leaf') are different from others' and more importanly the name and the concept behind the visual identity are different.
Anyways, I take your suggestion because it's good and it's something to learn :) and of course if the majority of people say I should change the visual presentation I'll be happy to do so.
Thanks.
I like the concept.
Conceptually, have you thought about taking the bud, or leaves, and shaping them into a b and d?
Also, you may want a more impactful but modern font like Hypatia...
Also, when you have so little contrast between the bg and the words, make sure you don't say too much...everything tends to mesh together. This is why I like the orange lettering. It makes it stand out more. I think the first logo would look better on a lighter background to increase contrast and reduce strain.
E.T.Cook
Good idea. I didn't think of it. I might try it later. Thanks.
Set with Adobe Hypatia Semibold as recommended by 'e'.
yeah, it goes well with logo esp with the second one. cool. thanks to e and creative_nrg. I started to think the mono color looks better than the one with orange.
you know where can I get that font? I'm using PS CS and it doesn't have that font.
What is your email?
E.T.Cook
phalkunz[at]gmail[dot]com. thanks.
I sent you the Hypatia set. Each different stroke type of Hypatia brings another flair to the font. If you don't like the semi-bold, try a thinner version.
E.T.Cook
You're being so helpful and so as everyone. thanks :)
I like the look of it. I would use the type treatment of the first and colors of the second.
I liked the old one better, without making the little bud part bigger. And I don't like the new typeface (Hypatia).
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I like the old bud better but I like the new typeface.
I've tried different combinations of the bud figures and typefaces and I think old bud geos with the old typeface and new bud goes with the new type face. It turns out to me that I like the old bud figure better :(
when you load the website, the bd one would come up large, centered, and then via flash (i dont know much about web design so there may be a simpler way to do it) it would expand into the full bud design, then shrink into the top left corner (or wherever you want the logo to be), and the rest of the site would load.
I thought I would make an animation for the bud, it would grow to the state we see in the logo. Your idea adds more to mine. Thanks.
skmoke da bud? nice idea, we can see where you get your inspirations from now :-|
What you mean? from weed you mean? hahaha funny.
I've been MIA from CB for sometime but thought i'd chime in. This whole leafy-bud look is quickly becoming tiresome and overdone - its a web 2.0 fad. I'd adjust your focus for something that won't look so tired in the near future.
Ron Gallagher
Citrus Studios
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just spitballing here, but why take the 'bud' idea so literally? The name of the company communicates that quite effectively really, and can be taken in a fun direction as well if you wanted to have a guy named 'bud' as your spokesman/animal/animated blob.
And if you're dead set on using an icon to 'back-up' your name, then maybe think of how you can better integrate it into the type itself, making them work together more effectively. Have the bud grow out of the word design, or bud. Use the type in the shape of a plant holder and have it grow out the top. 'Bud Design' then becomes the 'container' from which these ideas grow.
Like I said, my $0.02.
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I really like your concept buddy. This is great. Thanks alot.
i liked the 2nd one but i would suggest y don u use b and d to make a BUD .
I know i like that idea too but my partners don't like it. they only like something looks realistic. Ugh it's hard to convince them. They only like realistic-look bud.
i like the logo, the type treatment doesn't do too much for me, though NRG's changes helped.
the thing that gets me though is the "d" repetition. buD Design. keeps it from rolling off the tongue, in my opinion. nothing really to be done about that, though.