what do you think?

I think so. Maybe a new graphic designer.

the way you have treated the descenders on the a's and d's is horrible. You have taken them in the wrong direction, was that because it was easier to do?

dots above the i's are too high, & what has happened to the D?

kerning could use a major improvement.

yes it does need something else, good typography.

uninspired, staid, and quite awkward. You would have been better off just setting the type as it was and unifying the kerning.

sorry for being so harsh, but I've had a bad day dealing with incompetent / unreliable freelancers.

hello plancaster,

grey creative + coloured something formula is too much 'creativebits' formula xD

otherwise, you could choose more unusual name too. what was your naming process? give yourself / us more options to choose

=]

Cheers caoimghgin nothing like a bit of constructive criticism...

Monkey i appreciate your comments, I have updated the logo to show my first draft, which will explain the descenders. (Which I like) I agree that the kerning was appalling and still needs work.
The logo is for my own company and I seem to have a mental block with it. This was my fifth or sixth concept, none which I've been happy with.

Now you've added the symbol I can see where you were going with the descenders on the A's and D's, it still looks awkward though.

The symbol CA has promise, but I think you'll have trouble refining it, the descender on the A will always knock your circles off centre, creating a lack of balance.

Also, placing it where you have, aligned with the G straight edge makes it look like a print job that has been guillotined incorrectly.

TIV still need work on the kerning, too loose, ISING is a bit too tight.

about the only thing promising here is the mark. and it could be interesting with more refining. but the "a' in the mark does NOT have to be the same "a" from the type.

id try a whole other typeface

ZZZZzzzzzZZZzzzzzZZzzzzz. Two initials molded into eachother....zzzZZZZzzz please wake me up.

I find it ironic that your company is called Creative Advertising yet there's nothing creative about this logo at all...and don't get me started on the name.

Create a brief, come up with concepts, then present.

yeah. i must agree. the name is horribly uninspired. it would be like naming a restaurant
edible steakhouse

In short I wld say...
'Looking for Creative Advertising'

still if U liked ur logo than, I think there is no need of obvious 'a' inside 'c'. A half size line after 'c' can easily give it a look of 'a' as well. Aks me if u didn't get wat I said. Best of Luck.

Always tough working for yourself, but this has been done a million times. Sleep on it and come up with some new ideas tomorrow.

GAMBATE!

um take a look at spotondesign.ca you logo is very similar to the one I designed last year.

Art,,, piss off.

I love to hug and hold hands now, truth be known and it is a "murse" or a satchel. And as for my father I was so close to him we even served in the same Para Regiment together.

But about Art; I have yet to hear Art say anything worth while or see anything out of him design wise other than, a cute alias, some half ass critiques or ever see them share themselves or their work on the alter of critique .

So just like in the pub or in public somebody says something that is irrelevant or useless I would tell them to piss off. Especially if they come across as a half-wit.

Unlike people like www.jackmancer.com who did an excellent critique on your own logo while you were developing. Those type of critiques are valuable.

And I wasn't looking for accolades about my design as it is similar to the "new ad" logo ( http://www.newad.com/ ) and I just saw something similar on a side of vehicle two days ago. It was just a simple fact that his logo was eerily similar to my logo and to show him as we both explored the same fonts. It was like "um... we have been kissing the same person"
- C Thombs.

You got yourself involved Leaky Penny so don't put on false airs, and there is no respect in your language or tone. Plus you are another one to talk.
a proper critique, helps, shows or shares. And is not something like this and as I quote from you

"I find it ironic that your company is called Creative Advertising yet there's nothing creative about this logo at all...and don't get me started on the name."

You can come across as a mean little yipping dog that is barking to hide their own insecurities.
Just to help you out about the conducting a proper critique you generally;
you identify a potential issue,
ask questions,
share
or show where you have gone as a comparison,
and
you can use leading or open ended questions help stir the thought process.

most importantly then offer a real solution. not go off on a high horse.

Remember because you got allot of pencils dose not mean your competent,
and by the way fix your site or at least get up a place holder for leakypenny.com.

if you find no value in what I said piss off as well
-C Thombs

nope my site it is up. I am not changing anything right now on my site. But I will let you know when I do. Unlike you who promised me last fall you would share your updated Avatar when you were done making a new one. I sad you didn't I thought we bonded last fall ;(

And leaky I am sorry you were abused at school, and hugs right back to you. I know they make things better :)

When I pass through Toronto to drop by Gallery DK this summer on my way to Kingston you and me should go to the Brunswick house (it has been years) for a pint and I will buy you a pint and then you can buy me a pint and you won't have to worry about sending the cheque as I know things are tight. And as for me putting allot of time in you have definately put allot more into this than me, so it is all even steven to me.

Not sure if I will have time to go shopping for purses by the way but speaking of leather I want to pick up some other leather goods :0 though down in Church and Wellesley and I hope you are hot and not shy ;)

I am a designer, not necessarily a good one, but a happy one

You have my website so you have my number and my email lets chat on MSN.
C.Thombs
But I think we should now acknowledge our lovely studio audience I hope we were entertaining.

Welcome to the internet all. Now stop writing walls of text because these people just won't get it anyway, it's just producing unnecessary keyboard wear.

now what ;j

anyone notice that the OP checked out of this ridiculous jizz-lob a long-ass time ago.

It was a JOKE, feetup. No offense intended.
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Kudos to you guys for having my back while I was wasting time on the job - thanks.