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Make a DVD copy of MAC OS X Tiger


mrbuhyah's picture
Mac OS X

Tiger

With Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 now in hand, you may want to consider making a personal backup copy. This is an excellent way to ensure you are protected should your original install DVD become damaged or lost. This simple tutorial will show you how to make a reliable DVD copy from Tiger's Mac OS X InstallDVD.

NOTE: This tutorial is for personal use only. Only the legal owner of Mac OS X Tiger should make a backup. In no way whatsoever does creativebits.org condone the pirating or unauthorized duplication of Mac OS X Tiger. Please use this tutorial responsibly.

Now that the legal mumbo-jumbo is out of the way, lets begin. Duplicating CD/DVD’s is usually very easy, especially if you are lucky enough to have two drive bays and Toast Titanium. However, Mac OS X Tiger poses a slight difficulty since it is a bootable volume. The following steps will help you create a perfect working backup copy of Tiger.



Making a DVD Image

Step 1. Insert the retail Mac OS X Install DVD into your drive.

Step 2. Launch Disk Utility (Applications > Utilities).

Step 3. In Disk Utility, you will notice a white pane on the left hand side. In the pane, select the Mac OS X Install DVD by clicking on it once.

Step 4. Click New Image on the Disk Utility toolbar.

Step 5. A dialog box will appear. Give the new image a name. I used 'Mac OS X Install DVD'. Select the destination where you wish to save it. Leave Image Format at Compressed (default) and Encryption at None (default).

Step 6. Click Save to begin creating the image.

Step 7. Once your image has been created DO NOT mount it. Leave the image alone and proceed to the next section.



Burning the Image

Step 1. Launch Disk Utility (Applications > Utilities).

Step 2. Click Burn on the Disk Utility toolbar (upper left).

Step 3. Navigate to where you saved the DVD image created in the previous section. Click on the image file, then click the Burn button. Do not drag and drop the image file into Disk Utility during this step.

Step5. Insert a DVD when prompted and proceed to Burn it. (use good quality media)

Using these exact steps I was successfully able to create a personal backup copy of Mac OS X Tiger. I hope this tutorial helps. Enjoy the newfound features in Tiger!

Ronal's picture

Thanks!

Got the update through my RSS, Very useful tutorial. Implementing it right now ...

bloodthirstyrobot's picture

Probably the most succinct

Probably the most succinct how-to I've found on this subject. Thank you so much for this!

xucren's picture

If I had known

This sounds great for those who were smart enough to make a backup disk in time, but what do I do if I lost the install DVD? Should I download it from some dodgy site? I´m not gonna pay for it again.

Jammo's picture

Great Tutorial, do you know if....

Great tutorial, its always good to have a copy of expensive software that you've purchased (like cs studio / osx or studio mx 04 etc)

Do you know if this would work with normal dvd's too? I've got a load of dvds that I love watching and watch ALOT (like dilbert for example) and they always seem to get scratched, even when Im careful LOL...

mrbuhyah's picture

Thank you

Glad you find the tutorial useful. For regular applications such as Studio MX, Adobe CS, etc. you can get away with using Toast Titanium's simple Copy feature. This saves many of the steps I have outlined above.

As for intructions on how to copy "normal dvd's", are you refering to DVD movies?

Ron Gallagher
Citrus Studios

Jammo's picture

yep

Yea, DVD movies (sorry I totally phrased that wrong lol)

I was looking into getting Roxio "popcorn", but if this works just as well then I wont need to get popcorn....

*Must buy some dvd-r's and try lol*

bebopple's picture

Great. So using your

Great.
So using your instructions, is it possible to add a copy of DiskWarrior to the startup?
Thanks.

B

bebopple's picture

Can Disk Warrior be added to

Can Disk Warrior be added to the startup?

Thanks,

chillcore's picture

Toast

That's the way it goes ;-)
BTW, I did a backup of my shiny new Tiger DVD :) and for everyone using Toast for burning stuff: don't burn bootable images with it. It won't work. It won't boot. I don't know why, because we're talking about *disk images*, so it should burn just that: an image. But obviously it won't.

So in case there's someone out there (like me) who's used to burn everything with Toast instead of Apple's utilities: save yourself the time & the blank for your backup, use Disk Utility.

Mississauga's picture

Too much work!

I use the Copy function of Toast Titanium to duplicate ALL my OS disks - never a coaster. Why are all those steps necessary?

Alec

mrbuhyah's picture

Even Tiger?

Have you tried Tiger? My first choice was to use Toast, since it is so easy. When you do to copy Tiger, you can a volume error, something about files being in use. This was comon accross many forums, hence why I posted this tutorial.

Ron Gallagher
Citrus Studios

Mississauga's picture

Yes, I've already

Yes, I've already successfully copied Tiger - no burn/volume errors and copied disks boot fine. Perhaps it has something to do with the type of burner/reader combo you're using?!?

Alec

mrbuhyah's picture

Maybe

It could be. I tried on the stock Apple Combodrive (Philips) and on my Pioneer A04 to no avail.

Ron Gallagher
Citrus Studios

chillcore's picture

Interesting

Toast copied the DVD without giving me any error here. But it won't boot. Making an image of the non-bootable copied DVD and burning that image with Disk Utility resulted in a bootable DVD again. Strange. Using a Pioneer DVR-107D here.

LazarusUnbound's picture

Tiger Copying with Toast Titanium

Yes. Yes you can. You are right about Toast giving you an error message about some volume error/files in use, just like you said. However, you can click okay at that point, ignore it and continue with the copy. Haven't tried it with Toast 7 yet, but I suspect it will be the same, although Toast 7 incorporates new, cooperative evil content protection thingies.

Try it out with 6. It should work just ducky. Your method is easy and well-written. Keep up the good work!
Lazarus

Jeff Miller's picture

Thanks for the tip!

Thanks for the tip!

Jimmy Kim's picture

great!

Its great to make a backup of one expensive piece of plastic!!!!! its a shame they dont include two DVD's for the money given.

Bikel Munsen's picture

Burning the image on a PC?

I don't have a DVD burner on my mac, but have access to a PC with on. Anyone have experience with making the Tiger DVD image with Disk Utility on the Mac and then burning it bootable on a PC? (Most likley with Nero) Is that even worth trying? Thanks

Marcus Karlsson's picture

I tried, and as a result I

I tried, and as a result I got a non-bootable disc. I used Nero 6.6 and a Pioneer DVR-109 burner. Anyone else that tried with better result?

Anonymous's picture

I tried to copy using disk

I tried to copy using disk utility but got errors, I also had issues with toast. That was until I looked at the programs running when the DVD was in. One program looked weird so I killed it - sorry can't remember which one. Toast then burned a bootable copy with no errors.

liske's picture

SIZE

I can't seem to do Disk 2, it makes an archive of 8.7 GB, which is too big to copy to a DVD. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

mrbuhyah's picture

Dual Layer DVD

There's only one DVD that comes with the Retail version of Mac OS X Tiger 10.4. I don't know where you are getting this 8.7GB Disc 2 from - maybe its a Software Restore Disc? Regardless, it is clearly a dual layer DVD if it is 8.7GB. You need a Dual layer DVD burner and Dual layer DVD media. Apple only ship dual layer drives on the newest Powermac G5's. You can always go buy a retail drive and add it to your Mac. Dual layer media is still very expensive.

Ron Gallagher
Citrus Studios

synnestro's picture

- Blank DVD prices -

Not only are 8.5 Gb dual layer blank DVD's bloody expensive in comparison to 4.7 Gb single layer blank DVDs..
..They're also less common !!

I see dual layer blank dvds for £5-6 each, while single layer dvds are

osxmatt's picture

Ah ha!

The 2nd DVD is from a OEM set that came with a brand new Mac.... and it is over the 4.7gb limit, so unless you have some special double disk (or amazing powers), the disk is not copyable. Sounds like Apple is making 2 different sets of OSX- one for retail and the other for OEM. You can image it, and at the price of hard drives, just store the image file for when you need it. The only critical disk is DVD #1- that is the bookable one. DVD #2 seems to have all the "other" programs on it.

ouiareborg's picture

Error

I keep getting "input/output error." I've double checked the instructions.

Reflect's picture

Problem...

When i try and do this with disk utility, the burning starts and then all of asudden it sais: 'The device drained its buffer without burn underrun protection.' I don't know what that means, if someone does please tell me, thanks.

johnnymac's picture

Error...

I get the message:

Unable to create "Mac OS X Install DVD.dmg"
Resource Busy

Anyone else run into this issue? I suppose it's not a huge deal but a backup would be nice I've used this same process on my Adobe CD and Studio MX'04 in the past just in case (because I'm totally not into paying twice for anything)

Johnny Mac

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Are you sure? work for

Are you sure? working for me!
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turbojesse's picture

Works for me

Used this technique to burn a backup of TIGER DVD (single DVD) using Apple Super Drive in a dual 2 Ghz G5. MEdia was Verbatim Lightscribe DVD +R (4.7GB). Boots fine. Thanks for the elgant solution whihc is baffling so many people. Even Bombich can't seem to get it. I assume this works for bootable CDs as well.

Now for some questions:

Why it only works if you don't mount the disk image first.

How to create a bootable image with added on stuff. For instance a TIGER DVD with System, Security and Apple Application updates included.

Good Job

earlthepearl's picture

I have tried to make a copy

I have tried to make a copy of tiger today. It always says not enough space avalable on my DVDs.
I have followed these directions that are posted above:

Making a DVD Image

Step 1. Insert the retail Mac OS X Install DVD into your drive.

Step 2. Launch Disk Utility (Applications > Utilities).

Step 3. In Disk Utility, you will notice a white pane on the left hand side. In the pane, select the Mac OS X Install DVD by clicking on it once.

Step 4. Click New Image on the Disk Utility toolbar.

Step 5. A dialog box will appear. Give the new image a name. I used 'Mac OS X Install DVD'. Select the destination where you wish to save it. Leave Image Format at Compressed (default) and Encryption at None (default).

Step 6. Click Save to begin creating the image.

Step 7. Once your image has been created DO NOT mount it. Leave the image alone and proceed to the next section.

Burning the Image

Step 1. Launch Disk Utility (Applications > Utilities).

Step 2. Click Burn on the Disk Utility toolbar (upper left).

Step 3. Navigate to where you saved the DVD image created in the previous section. Click on the image file, then click the Burn button. Do not drag and drop the image file into Disk Utility during this step.

Step5. Insert a DVD when prompted and proceed to Burn it. (use good quality media)

Using these exact steps I was successfully able to create a personal backup copy of Mac OS X Tiger. I hope this tutorial helps. Enjoy the newfound features in Tiger!

Do I need a double sided DVD to burn this to??

Thanks. You can reply to me at my email also.

earltash@yahoo.com

Thanks........

Pismo's picture

Success!!

I know that this thread is old, but I had to add some input for those having failures. I continually had failures doing this until I stopped trying to use my external LaCie d2 DVD-RW drive and APS DVD-RW Firewire drives. Instead I used the internal Superdrive (106D) and finally had success. I was also not following Step 3 ("Burning the Image") exactly, I was not "navigating" to the image, I was simply choosing it in the left pane. From there on everything in the directions was exact.

Thanks a bunch, I'd been asking around how to do this for months. Now I finally have a backup. My original has a scratch on it and was worried that eventually it would be scratched more and thus unusable. Sweating - Off.

Pismo

Jessamy's picture

Why???

Anyone knows why my dmg for Disk 1 Tiger is 5 GB??? It's annoying, just a touch over 4.7 GB for single layer dvd burn....

By the way, looking into the install Disc 1, it's got the following items:
(Perhaps I can "omit" some or any items from the list to get the DMG down to 4.7 GB???) lol....

- Apple Hardware Test Read Me
- Applications>Utilities>Disk Utility>Installer>Network Utility>Open Firmware Password>Startup Disk>System Profiler>Terminal>VoiceOver Utility
- etc
- Install Bundled Software Only
- Install Mac OS X and Bundled Software
- Japanese>ProtectedFontEnabler
- Library>Audio>Documentation>Filesystems.Graphics.Keyboard Layouts.LaunchAgents>LaunchDaemons>Preferences>Receipts>StartupItems
- mach
- Optional Installs
- Read Before You Install
- System
- tmp
- var
- Welcome to Tiger
- Xcode Tools

Help me please???? Thanks!!!!

DUDE!'s picture

file sizes

Ok, So I just created dmg files of the 10.4.5 discs, there are 2, the first one is 4 some gig, the second is 7.8 gig. so the first one must be single sided, the second one is dual sided... not having a double sided dvd burner is a problem, I am going to try and create 2 discs from the disc 2, wish me luck?
anyone else have a solution?

MartinChamberlain's picture

Getting error message

I followed the steps as you said, created the image on my desktop, but when I attempt to burn the image to a blank DVD, I get a message saying there is not enough room on the blank disk. I checked the info of the image, it seems only 4.2 GB large, I don't understand why it won't burn to a 4.7 GB DVD. Any ideas? Should I be using a double layered blank DVD? I have a brand new Intel iMac, so I have a dual layer superdrive burner.

davidemm's picture

Thanks!

I tried using the copy function of Toast Titanium but it wouldn't boot. I've looked everywhere for a way to make a bootable copy. I followed your instructions and it worked! Who would have known Apple would make it easier to copy their own disks with their software than with third party software... Thanks again.

sccase's picture

Problem with copying mac os x tiger 10.4.7

I followed your instructions, but the mac osX 10.4.7 DVD is 4.9 GB. I got a message that the disk inserted (a blank DVD that is 4.4GB) does not have enough free space. Is there any way around this?
Thanks,
Shelley

Doug M.'s picture

:D

Use an External Hard Drive or a really large USB Drive/Port

hyu's picture

Windows can't read MAC OS X DVD?

When I insert MAC OS X DVD in Windows, I haven't seen any files of MAC, I think Windows can't read it. I can't clone MAC OS X in Windows.

Doug M.'s picture

try pear pc, but i don't

try pear pc, but i don't think it'll work with mac OS X Tiger...maybe an earlier version :D http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/

canuto186's picture

can one copy mac tiger in a

can one copy mac tiger in a windows pc , tried and my cd rom doed not read the mac??????

JimD's picture

MacPro owners

If you own a MacPro, or iMac that has a Dual layer SuperDrive, you can just make a copy using Toast (or Disk Utility for that matter) and burn to a dual layer DVD.

nutta2's picture

DVD type?

does anyone know if a DVD-RW will work to boot from? or does it have to be a DVD-R

P00PDOG's picture

just a quick note

I did a back up of both OS X 10.4 disks on a windows box using alcohol 120, and as long as you have a newer dvd burner that can read -r and +r you should be fine. The problm with the combo drives is that they will only read dvd-r. as soon as i swiched my dvd combo to a duel layer dvd burner, I could boot to it.

shelby5041's picture

making backup max os x restore disk in windows

hi there i hope you can help me

i got a macbook the other day from a friend with no hard drive......i bought a new sata hd and now borrowed my friends macbook pro restore disks that came with his laptop ........not retail version

can i copy them using windows.........i copied both disks as iso images to my hard drive and now am going to burn them to 2 dual layer dvds

will this work........??? i can only use windows to do this i do not have access to a macbook......if it wont work can you tell me how i can get it to work using windows

i want to basically create my own restore disks from copying my friends........and will the macbook pro restore disks even work on a macbook????

thanks

hrdn's picture

Hey mrbuhyah,

Hey mrbuhyah,
Thank you for this post! useful for me ;)

raulsoto's picture

about alcohol 120%

can i use alcohol120% in windows to backup the os x disks? and can i split it in 2 dvd (4.7GB) disks ??? i understand the original dvd of apple os came with double layer (8.5GB), i cant burnit in to conventional 4.7GB disks?

takeitfromme's picture

OX X Backup

Hello there!,

Nice to read some useful tips here. I am trying to copy my Tiger dvd but I can not make it bootable for some reasons. I am using 14 inch ibook, which has no dvd burner so what i did i made an image file through disk utility and then copied to toast to write in a DVD-R.

As a matter of fact, I tired to burn it through disk utility but unfortunately it is not giving me an option to choose my external dvd writer. it simply shows waiting for empty dvd to be inserted...

Any help will b appreciated

catalonia's picture

Leopard boot

Has anyone bothered to try this out on Leopard yet? Just curious!
http://www.lifeincatalonia.com

veng58's picture

leopard

You question the answer is yes ,I bought the family pack as my daughter and three sons have macbooks all away in different parts of the country and using the method described with disk utility it works, obviously you need a superdrive with dl burning capability and dual layer disks which i got off ebay for 38p each but all the macbooks i have got do this.Press and holding c on start up and it boots into loading leopard so thanks for the tip.solves what could have been a problem if the other machines failed .

veng58's picture

burning/converting dmg to iso

Hi found a little program which converts dmg to iso for burning on windows its for those that run windows on there mac can't think why DMG2ISO download from majorgeeks.com hope this helps

syaifuddin's picture

burning/converting dmg to iso

hi bro veng58. u can tray software for windows. ultraiso from http://www.ezbsystems.com/enindex.html
that's great sofware for me, maybe for u 2. that can convert dmg 2 iso. also can can backup u'r mac os dvd in microsuck w1nd0

natobasso's picture

Illegal

I would imagine this is illegal since none of the copies are licensed?!

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X2THEBOX's picture

.ISO vs. .DMG

Using Disk Utility, does it matter if I make a copy of Leopard as an .iso file? Or does it need to be in the .dmg format if I wish to burn it do a DL DVD and then install the copied Leopard onto another mac?

windbell's picture

Tks, but I am now using

Tks, but I am now using aimersoft mac dvd copy, it can easily copy protected DVD with high quality, and works great on my leopard
http://www.aimersoft.com/mac-dvd-copy.html

danke's picture

Very useful tutorial!Thanks

Very useful tutorial!
Thanks for sharing!
and i was recommended to wondershare dvd copy for mac not long ago. it is able to copy DVD movies with the original quality 100% preserved and remove DVD protection methods such as CSS, RC and RCE.
very easy to use as well.
share it with you here http://www.dvd-ripper-copy.com/dvd-copy-mac.html

nrowe46's picture

Leopard boot disk

I have put the Leopard startup disk on a hard drive partition and it works fine. How ever I would like a DVD copy in case. I made a copy in Toast 9.0.2 and it will not boot. Using a Pioneer DVR 115 DL. When I use disk utilities with restore the blank disc does not show up so I can select it as the destination. When I use burn the disc is too small. I'm using Verbatim DVD+R DL blanks. These are supposed to be 8.5 gigs. How do I make a boot able DVD?