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Implement Stack in Tiger (Mac OSx)

implement stack in Tiger
I don't know whether someone has this idea before or not. But this is what I found. My desktop was such a mess before this. After seeing the Stack feature sported with Leopard, I was like gosh Leopard has addressed my problem but I don't have Leopard on my machine and I won't even after October. That's the problem.

However, I found a way to get around it in Tiger. It's so easy. We just create a new folder somewhere and drag it into the right side of the (separate) bar of the dock. We're not allowed to place any folder on the left side of the dock, it's only for applications. In that folder we can create other folders, for example Downloads. Since it's on the dock, we have an easy access to it, easier than the one on the desktop. Even more better, we can right-click or click and hold a second or 2 on that folder, it shows the folder's content as well. Even though, it doesn't look like Stack in Leopard, it helps me alot.

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Ivan's picture

I used to put my Applications folder there, but I have too many things in there now and it is too slow to open. Maybe I should organize them into folders like you did in the example above.

phalkunz's picture
49 pencils

Yeah, it would be a good idea as well to put application shortcuts in there. Thanks for adding more idea.

illustratorDavid's picture
2 pencils

What app is the brown monster icon for on your dock ?

Ivan's picture

That's Adium. I use the same icon set. :)

plugz's picture
1245 pencils

Domo-kun to you.

illustratorDavid's picture
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Thanks guys - i keep seeing that logo, worth switching to Adium just for it :)

plugz's picture
1245 pencils

I have 2 external drives, my Home folder, Applications and Documents on the right of the dock, but having played with Stacks the other week, a lot, they were the thing I spent longest messing around with, Stacks make that system infinitely more useful.

The problem as Ivan mentioned is the speed of the menu appearing.
That's a major issue for me and although still marginally more convenient than opening the finder, lets be honest, it's not great.

I think what will surprise people about stacks is the speed of them.
It's instant bar a small animation, and even that seems to add to the speed when it's in reality just a very pretty delay tactic.

The right hand of the dock has always been handy, but it's about to get a whole lot better.

phalkunz's picture
49 pencils

I can't wait to use Stack in leopard and also other new features.

Patrick Yan's picture
15 pencils

Yeah, unfortunately, it's not spring-loaded, which is the whole point of Stacks...

Patrick Yan
patrickyan.net

plugz's picture
1245 pencils

Really?
The WHOLE point of stacks is the animation?

Wow.

harrison's picture
173 pencils

i think he's talking about spring loaded folders, not the animation.

you know, like how when you drag something over a folder in the finder and hold it there for a second, then it opens up and you can do it as many times as there are folders?

http://kb.iu.edu/data/aehp.html

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http://andrew.harrison.org

plugz's picture
1245 pencils

Ah, my bad I misinterpreted the comment...

tidris's picture
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First thing I do when I set up a new computer is drag the hard drive into the dock so I can right-click and navigate through it. It can be pokey, so if Stacks can speed things up that would be wonderful.

colin's picture
5 pencils

... I'll wait for BumpTop on OS X:

blubbernaut's picture
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Are you kidding? I mean, I have to admit when I first started watching that video, I was like "that is freakin awesome!" But then I started thinking that it was really getting away from one of the whole points of computers in the first place - to organise your stuff! If you start introducing real-world clutter...can you imagine what your desktop would be like after a week? You'd be constantly rifling through piles of crap to find stuff. I guess this is where something like stacks takes over - it uses a little of the real-world metaphor, but in a controlled way that actually makes keeping, grouping and finding things a little easier.
Still, programatically, it's a very cool thing they've done there!

onegirlcreative's picture
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I agree—when I first watched, I thought how cool. But then how complicated at the same time. These guys are pure mathematic geniuses at best. A little out of my realm of things.

However, the complexity of this idea is just that—too complex. I think with the use of a regular mouse, it can really cause havoc not only on your wrist, but on your brain.

I imagine with the upcoming soon-to-be-released Leopard, this will ultimately solve that paradox—at least I hope so.

Pretty cool, nevertheless.

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Ivan's picture

It's awesome, but completely useless unless you have only 20-30 document. Imagine all the thousands of files on your current computer neatly displayed in stacks. It's a nightmare. Regular hierarchy allows us to focus on one level only.

phalkunz's picture
49 pencils

it's a great idea but when it comes to a large collection of documents it's gonna be such a mess. And another thing is it's not easy to manipulate the mouse movement for normal pointing devices such as mouse.

colin's picture
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I don't know if I agree with the rifling for hours comment. My actual desktop is a bit of a mess sometimes -- and don't get me started on the shelves or drawers next to it! -- but generally I know exactly where everything is. Contrast that to my computer where I have to put everything into a folder, or sub-folder ... it takes more effort than just tossing into a pile. I think the physical action of putting something somewhere creates a memory that's more easily retrieved than mentally trying to recall what folder or del.icio.us tag I used to store something.

I agree that it might not work on your entire Documents directory. But how many docs do you have on your desktop? 20 or so, I figure? Maybe there's using this as a desk metaphor, and then a file cabinet metaphor for everything else.

And yes: a regular mouse would make manipulating more awkward than a pen. But maybe a touch screen (á la iPhone) would work. 30" Cinema display with touch-screen, embedded into the surface of a desk ...

Ivan's picture

Ideally we would have a different interface like the one above for the desktop only. That way we could use the desktop for the work in progress documents and the regular hierarchy for the archives.

centurypixel's picture
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This is a great tool for later. Soon we can put our hands to use instead of the mouse. Look at iPod, with fingers, you can easily scroll, click, double-click, zoom in and zoom out, flip vs.

For todays world, an app like this would make my desktop a bit organized, but it is just too much work for my mouse.

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